Morning Update (Post-Game Edition)

by Chris Thorman on Dec 15, 2008 7:13 AM CST in Article Updates Comment 17 comments

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Arrowhead Addict: "I can’t do it this week. Of all the losses the Chiefs have this season, this one hurt the worst. They shoudn’t have lost this one, San Diego had no business winning that game. Screw 'giving credit' to the other team, they had no business winning that one."

Jason Whitlock: "That should be on Carl Peterson’s and Herm Edwards’ Kansas City tombstones. It took fewer than 2 minutes to indisputably unmask the folly of their rebuilding effort."

Joe Posnanski: Ready, aim — fire everybody.

Pat Clifton: "The most glaring lesson learned Sunday was that Herm Edwards' time management is definitely still a problem. This is not a new lesson learned, but rather a validation. Edwards blew his first two timeouts in the second half with over six minutes left to play, and did so on the same drive within 90 seconds of each timeout."

KC Chiefs Fanatic says the Chiefs played to lose yesterday against the Chargers.

Bob Gretz talks about Connor Barth: "The conditions were perfect," Barth said. "The offense got me down there. I had my chance and the wind was at my back. You couldn’t have asked for anything else. Unfortunately I didn’t put it through."

Don Banks: "Quite the non-crowd at the Chargers-Chiefs. Every time they showed a shot of the near-empty stands in Kansas City, it looked like Friends and Family day at Arrowhead Stadium.

"Not that I don't understand. It was cold. And the Chargers and Chiefs owned a combined seven wins entering play."

Post game quotes: Herm Edwards, Tyler Thigpen and others.

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Whitlock could just pretend to care about the Chiefs enough to write about them and not as the bizarro Cowboys

At least Ponanski brings up Tamarick Vanover, Whitlock dreams of D-Bo turning into a receiver meltdown of Ocho Cinco proportions.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Dec 15, 2008 7:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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Addict -nailed it.

Whitlock -about time you realized that not only Carl was at fault here, but Herm is not “your man” like you’ve been spewing. You never blamed him for this “rebuilding” fiasco. About friggin time to admit Carl and Herm don’t know how to rebuild.

Poznanski – nailed it ….14 games into the seasona nd they haven’t learned to play as a team for 4 qyuarters

And the truth is that, after that sort of mind-shattering collapse, it’s hard to come up with a single good reason why anybody involved with the Chiefs should be back next season. Sure, everyone knew that this year would be trying, that there would be more losses than wins, that young players would make lots of mistakes. But there was no way to see this mess coming.

Gretz- He still around? Thought he would be crawling up Carl’s sphincter.

Don Banks – Yeah, a sellout…my a$$. A buddy got great seats at the counter right before the game. Dirt cheap too.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 8:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Played to Lose

that’s all I kept thinking toward the end of the game yesterday.

Forget that had Barth made either of his FG attempts this would be a non issue…. or if Bowe could manage to keep his hands on the ball for the on-side kick (can we get this guy a Jugs machine for Christmas, please?).

When you’re a team with nothing to lose… you need to play like you have nothing to lose. Like you’re pulling out all the stops to win. How about a fake punt on 4th and 1? How about GOING FOR IT on 4th and 1, twice! I know it’s a little different when you have the lead. But that was just plain frustrating.

This team, coaching included, just doesn’t know how to finish a game.

by Ochophosphate on Dec 15, 2008 8:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Going for it on 4th

We were on our 40 with an 11 point lead. The best move IMO was to punt and make them drive the length of the field (something they’d only done once up to that point in the game).

by Joel Thorman on Dec 15, 2008 8:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly !!

Punting was the right call at that point – no doubt.

by HankerChief on Dec 15, 2008 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Finally reporters, and a majority

of the media are calling for Herm to be fired. Did not think the KC reporters had it in them, maybe some changes will happen. It is a full season overdue!

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 8:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

yes!

but we all know they will all be back next year….if the organization doesn’t come up with wins early next season carl and herm and hunt will be burnt at the stake

"stuck in Dallas"

by johnnyo_99 on Dec 15, 2008 9:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought so a

Couple of weeks ago, but with so much public scrutiny, Clark’s comments in Jan. How could they be back?

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 9:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I Could Live With It If Herm Returns

But Carl’s got to go, and his replacement should get to decide Herm’s future (and, more importantly, get to put a guy he wants in as Herm’s replacement).

"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

JP Losman

Can Sundays Bills’ Choke job (Perhaps worse than the Chiefs) officially put an end to the talk around here of signing him in the offseason? As sick as I felt after the Chiefs lost, can you imaging be a Bills fan?

If you go out and you’re looking for the girl to wink at you and she hasn’t winked at you before 12 she isn’t going to. You might as well go home.

by craig in calgary on Dec 15, 2008 11:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

yeah

i could, they put up 56 points on us and they played a team that could win a respectable division. Now I agree w/ you that after yesterday’s performance the JP Losman convo on this site should come to an end but w/ Carl in Charge wouldn’t be surprised if that is our lone “big” offensive addition in the offseason.

When deep space exploration ramps up, it'll be the corporations that name everything, the IBM Stellar Sphere, the Microsoft Galaxy, Planet Starbucks.

I'd be fine with 9-7 or 10-6 and competiting for the divsion title

by madtheory on Dec 15, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Losman's Dead To Me

I’ll revisit my earlier comments about him during the offseason.

On the other hand, we might be able to get him cheap…which wouldn’t be the worst idea if the Chiefs decide to dump Quinn Gray. But unless Losman outperforms Thigpen (or whoever we draft), it should be Thigpen’s job to lose next year.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1 on dead Losman

please please please no

by Ochophosphate on Dec 15, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

News flash..........this just in.................

Patrick Surtain just seen running into the tunnel and making his exit from the field following Sunday’s game. How slow is this guy? He hasn’t lost a step, he has lost a whole staircase. He picked off a Phillip Rivers pass in full stride and couldn’t outrun the opposing offense to the end zone? Jeeeeez! Thanks for playing for the Chiefs, man, but you need to hang it up.

by G.L. on Dec 15, 2008 3:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs