Morning Update (SEC Edition)
by Joel Thorman on Dec 12, 2008 9:09 AM CST
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Kent Babb: Leggett smiled when he discussed this one: He blocked an extra point in last year’s Division II national championship game, a play that prevented Northwest Missouri State from putting the score out of Valdosta’s reach. The Bearcats lost that game a year ago, and Leggett learned that people in Kansas City hadn’t forgotten.
Glenn Dorsey is still reppin' the SEC. He picked the Gators over the Sooners.
Herm on fans that want to play for a draft pick: “Fans have a right to their opinion,” he said. “The fans make the game. They’re involved with their football team, and they have emotion. But players and coaches always want to win. That will be our intent the next few weeks.
The Falcons are content with Matt Ryan. Steve Young on the young gun: “Even though it won’t be a bed of roses along the way, Matt Ryan already has shown me enough to say that he’ll be one of the all-time greats.”
Those Redskins sure do know how to market themselves. From Bob Gretz: "At least, they don't make a farce out of the process which is something that Washington Redskins fans did with the help of the team. They flooded the ballot box to the point that Redskins players were either No.1 or No.2 in the voting at just about every position. Of the 19 spots on the ballot there were nine Redskins in first place, seven in second and four in third."
Bill Kuharich linked to the Lions' GM job. No, really.
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Pro Bowl Selection Is A Joke Anyway
As is the game itself. I’ll care what the Washington Redskins are doing to “taint” the selection process when the NFL turns the Pro Bowl into something more than a free trip to Hawaii for players and coaches.
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 9:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The rumor is
That by 2010 the Pro Bowl will be played in the 2 weeks in between the AFC/NFC Championship games and the Super Bowl. Believe that’s from Peter King.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 12, 2008 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So That Probably Means
That none of the players from the two potential champs will be in attendence. Not a way to build credibility.
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if they just did away with the game. It has no meaning, the players rarely take it seriously, and it’s just a liability for the teams (e.g. the Patriots’ Robert Edwards).
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 9:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is what it means
The Super Bowl players wouldn’t be in the game (which isn’t that smart considering the players in that game are usually some of the biggest names in the league).
by Joel Thorman on Dec 12, 2008 9:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Liability to punters...
just ask Brian Moorman, then again, thats what he gets for taking Colquitt;s spot.
Pro Bowls a joke. No one watches it, no one cares. Announce the teams, give the players some cash and a nice watch, and then have an expanded skills competition the week before the Super Bowl.
by HIV 2 Elway on Dec 12, 2008 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Even That's A Waste
It’s a struggle for me to even care about the preseason…a skills competition would be even less interesting.
Football’s just not a game meant to have a good all-star game. With such a high probability of serious injury in each game and nothing at stake for a Pro Bowl it’s just not worth the risk to the players to put out the effort.
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
I believe it was reported they will try holding the Pro Bowl at the same site as the Supe Bowl, just a week or two ahead. I think the league determined the Pro Bowl was a joke but some players and some fans actually want to attend, and it’s just a way to bring a little more money into the city that is hosting the SB, since they spend millions of dollars lobbying and preparing for the event. Two weekends of hotel revenues, restaurant bills, and parking fees will bring a lot of money to whatever city hosts the SB. Too bad it will never be hosted by KC.
by Chiefs4Life on Dec 12, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They Can Change The Venue, They Can Change The Time
But they can’t make the players care about an exhibition game. There’s just too much money at risk for the players to want to compete in the Pro Bowl.
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They should just turn it into player competitions.
Use things like the QB challenge and all the other pro bowl events. Yeah that is right I didn’t capitalize pro bowl…..take that NFL. Just get rid of the game and use the comps and events that weekend as filler.
Indecision is the key to flexibility
by cmpotter on Dec 12, 2008 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It Would Make More Sense
I wouldn’t watch a skills competition during the current Pro Bowl week. I might watch it during the Super Bowl bye week, if only to break up the monotony of ESPN’s crew reciting the same story over and over again.
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I always liked...
“Battle of the Network Stars” … omg the drama. See the competition finally decided 8 minutes into the clip.
This is what the Pro Bowl should be about ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWU9huMMco
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.
by THE_TRUTH on Dec 12, 2008 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Used To Like That Show Too
Gabe Kaplan was the man. :)
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
American Gladiators NFL Edition :)
Indecision is the key to flexibility
by cmpotter on Dec 12, 2008 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Remember The First Version Of American Gladiators
When the Gladiators went up against former NFL players like Charles White, Jack Ham, and Greg Pruitt. The former NFL players absolutely kicked the crap out of the Gladiators, even though most of them hadn’t played football in at least five years
They had one competition where they were in these giant metal cage balls and the NFL guys had to roll the ball around a circuit onto these checkpoints while the Gladiators kept trying to throw them off-track by ramming their cage ball into the NFL guys’ cage ball. The gladiator facing Greg Pruitt spent the entire five minutes trying to catch up to Pruitt’s cage ball…and I don’t think he ever touched him. By the end the gladiator was just about dying from exhaustion. It was hilarious.
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 11:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True but
my point wasn’t that the players will try harder or that the majority of fans will care about the Pro Bowl more, it will still be a joke to almost everyone. But it is likely that two full teams will line up and play patty cake together, and that some over zealous fans will come to watch. It will still bring revenue to the host city, and that is why they are moving it.
by Chiefs4Life on Dec 12, 2008 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Know That It Would
The Super Bowl city is basically a weeklong party before hand that’s jammed to capacity…I can’t imagine it’s going to increase any more for the Pro Bowl.
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please Let The Lions Take Kuharich
I would love to see us have a shot at Martin Mayhew. Any GM who can get three good draft picks out of a trade for Roy Williams is a someone we should want.
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 9:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow really?
You want to base selecting the next GM on ONE deal?
by ChiefDJ on Dec 12, 2008 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not we hire a coach based on a playoff win. LOL
Indecision is the key to flexibility
by cmpotter on Dec 12, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And His Resume
And his experience with other teams. Have you actually bothered to read my post on Mayhew that I’ve constantly referenced or did you just selectively forget that like you do with so many of my arguments?
You know why people who don’t agree with you tend to get into fights with you? It’s not because your position infuriates them, it’s because they get sick of having to constantly repeat themselves to someone who can’t remember the basics of their positions and who’s too lazy to look things up.
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So in other words...
…it’s not a sell-out. Just like I’ve been pontificating. Plenty of seats left on Ticketmaster.
Blackout avoided
The Chiefs report they have sold enough tickets to allow Sunday’s game against San Diego to be televised locally.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.
by THE_TRUTH on Dec 12, 2008 10:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If It's A Sell-Out
Then I guess that means we won’t see any empty seats.
Maybe we should have a weekly contest at Arrowhead Pride to guess the actual attendence at Chiefs games. Is there anyone who knows how we can find the real numbers from the turnstiles? :)
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You should just be able to count them all on tv. :)
Indecision is the key to flexibility
by cmpotter on Dec 12, 2008 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I came to town for the Saints game.
I had really good lower level tickets for 35 a piece from the ticket booth. I got there cheaper than scalpers were selling upper level.
Indecision is the key to flexibility
by cmpotter on Dec 12, 2008 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That Might Be More Interesting Than The Game :)
"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.
The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.
by UCrawford on Dec 12, 2008 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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