Morning Update (More ArrowheadSpread Edition)

by Chris Thorman on Dec 10, 2008 7:15 AM CST in Article Updates Comment 37 comments

via NFL.com

Here is an odd article about Carl Peterson "loving" natural grass so much it may cost Kansas City the Big 12 Championship. First, the field turf mentioned in the article is already installed in the practice field. Second, choose your battles wisely Chiefs fans. This one doesn't make any sense to fight.

You know, athletes really shouldn't be blogging. From D-Bowe's blog- "I am chillin' at da crib with my mini pins catching up on some computer business and wanted to send a shout out to all of you." That was one of the three sentences in the post.

C.E. Wendler: "If you ask me, the Chiefs' "Thigpenigma" should not prevent them from drafting another quarterback this offseason. The goal is to be great, not good."

Arrowhead Addict is talking about the '09 pool of free agent talent.

Here is Herm's press conferences from yesterday. pleaseblock is talking about it in the FanPosts.

Talking about Philip Rivers' passion. Intra-dvisional hate for the guy aside, would you want Philip Rivers as your QB today?

Charger fans are a bit worried about that whole Arrowhead in December stat. I wrote about losing the Arrowhead advantage in December here.

Ha! A movie review of "Leaf" from Bolts from the Blue.

We'll be talking about the Chargers more this week but for now, remember that they whomped the Raiders last week, 34 to 7.

On an unrelated note, and since it's the holidays, have you guys seen this Doghouse video that's making the rounds? I thought it was pretty good.

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Peterson And His Grass Field

Got to agree with that article…I was at the KU/MU game and that grass field looked like shit. Players were slipping outside of the hashmarks because it apparently didn’t have good drainage and the thing was a patchwork. And I’ve never seen anyone but Carl Peterson claim that field was any good, so I suspect he’s either lying or delusional.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 10, 2008 8:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Or

He’s just too damned cheap to upgrade the field and would rather have crappy sod,

Seriously, I think he’s taken miserliness to a whole other level. I wonder if it’s because he’s just getting cheaper in his old age?

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 10, 2008 8:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Miserliness

it couldn’t be that they didn’t budget to replace the playing surface in the eleventy million dollar renovations =)

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 10, 2008 8:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well

He is cheap if he doesn’t want to replace the grass with better grass. He’s just plain stupid if he thinks replacing it with field turf would be costly. Annual maintenance costs saved int he FIRST and SECOND years of artificial surfaces are so high many of them pay for themselves in that amount of time.

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."

by bigbe on Dec 10, 2008 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's What I've Always Heard

But who knows? Maybe Peterson’s sticking with the crap turf because he just wants to be difficult.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 10, 2008 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No

…it’s cause it would cost a cool mil. to do it.

His argument is that the grass doesn’t matter since it’s dormant this time of year anyway. He’ll tell you to talk to the groundskeeper to confirm. (From the horses mouth there)

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 10, 2008 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I Think Bigbe's Point

Was that in the long run, turf is cheaper to keep up than grass and that the initial outlay of cost is taken care of in the first couple of years.

And a million is nothing in terms of NFL revenue.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 10, 2008 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

Thats the reason that almost every HS in KC area i going to turf. Maintenence costs are insane on those grass fields.

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."

by bigbe on Dec 10, 2008 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Our local High School just installed it and FedEx paid the biggest chunk of the 1 mil

Seems like Carl could come up with 1 or 2 resources to help pay for it, other than the fans.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Dec 10, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

My high school in KC got it 5 or 6 years ago

Not sure where Carl is going with this one.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 10, 2008 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

By the way

I saw a replay on NFL Net the other day from the last game at Arrowhead and was confused on what is going on with the middle of the field. It looked like a green Mohawk. What gives?

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Dec 10, 2008 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Since Most Of The Action Takes Place In The Middle Of The Field

That’s apparently the only part of the field they take care of.

Seriously, who the hell is in charge of groundskeeping these days for the Chiefs? George Toma would be rolling over in his grave at the sight of this (yes, I realize he’s not dead yet…I think).

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 10, 2008 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Found An Article About The Chiefs' Groundskeeper

And while the groundskeeper, Andre Bruce, appears to be busting his hump out there, that field is so overused with Chiefs, MLS, and college games that it’s stupid for the team not to go to turf.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 10, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Although

I’ll bet that the biggest reason the Chiefs won’t go to artificial turf is the MLS games…because it would negatively affect the play for soccer games and Clark Hunt loves his soccer.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 10, 2008 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Do they play there?

As far as I know MLS plays at that stadium by the Legends…Community One America or something like that.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 10, 2008 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

MLS isn't played at Arrowhead anymore after Hunt sold them.It's been a couple of years

…they are played at Community One and primetime is right. The reason the field isn’t in top shape is because of money. Period.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 10, 2008 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Money

And 2 extra games there the last two weeks (one of which was played while it was snowing).

by Joel Thorman on Dec 10, 2008 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And if it was that big of a deal

Then the NFL would get involved like they threatened to do to the Steelers last year when they played on their field the day after the high school state championships were played there.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 10, 2008 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

haha

Ya like EVERY class’s Championship, like 6 games or something. Good idea…

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."

by bigbe on Dec 10, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

25 comments on fucking grass.

we gotta go study more.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Dec 10, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

They Play Big Games At Arrowhead

Like when Beckham shows up in town. People will pay big bucks to see the most overrated football player in the world.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 10, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

But...you can't compare a couple fo games to the whole season

When The Wiz played the entire home season at Arrowhead it wasn’t this bad. NOW, all of sudden it’s an issue. Chiefs are pulling back on addressing the field.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 11, 2008 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't live in Jackson County

but I think the voters got it right…yes to money for improvements, no to the roof

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 10, 2008 8:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Big 12 isn't leaving because of the grass..

They’re leaving because Crazy ass Jerry Jones is building an insane stadium. No big loss, I’d rather have the Big12 tourney more frequently than a single football game.

by HIV 2 Elway on Dec 10, 2008 9:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I would not want to get into a money pissing match with Jerry Jones.

Arrowhead Pride

by Chris Thorman on Dec 10, 2008 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Me neither

I heard that the city agreed to finance like $600 million then Jerry Jones would cover the rest.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 10, 2008 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yup

My brother-in-law knows people who are working with the project and they told him that the way Jones has it structured he’s actually making money off of the construction of the stadium.

Publicly-funded stadiums are such a scam.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 10, 2008 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And he's offering $5 Mil as opposed to Carl's $3.5

…Carl got outbid. Plain and simple.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 10, 2008 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thought It Flipped Between The North And The South Every Year

Wouldn’t Jones be outbidding Reliant Stadium?

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 10, 2008 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, you're right about that

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."

by bigbe on Dec 10, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Guys again, that came from Carl's mouth

…on the radio 810. Go look it up. They got outbid.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 11, 2008 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: Rivers

no i would absolutely hate having him as our qb. it all stems from this one time i was tripping acid and he was being interviewed on sportscenter and he was just warbling and his head was moving around all different directions. to this day i can’t look at him without thinking about that

by The DBowe Show on Dec 10, 2008 11:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Wow

I just cant stand him because he’s a b*tch. Whatever works though.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 10, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1.... billion

Quick Quiz:

Phillip Rivers is always ________.
a) making a face like somebody pooped in his Cheerios
b) pouting and bitching like a sore loser (even when winning)
c) throwing “wounded ducks” every 3rd pass
d) stupid
e) all of the above

by Ochophosphate on Dec 10, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

On Rivers: Oh god no

Beyond the division and the KSK marmalard stuff, he really does thrown the weakest pass in the NFL. It’s amazing to us he has as much success as he has. He’s the biggest beacon of hope we have for this weekend. Generally, if your Qb’s demeanor is that of a enraged latina woman who feels as if she has just been wronged in a car accident, that’s not good.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Dec 10, 2008 2:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs