Chiefs Getting Closer Every Week
To the fan of another team that just occasionally looks over the Chiefs record and stats, they would assume the Chiefs are a really bad team, much like Chiefs fans probably look at the Lions or Rams. And its true that for much of the season we have been as bad, if not worse, than those teams.
But despite going 0-3 the last 3 games, Chiefs fans should be getting the sense that there is something building. That the ascension of Tyler Thigpen from ridiculed 3rd string backup that threw for 39% accuracy and 3 interceptions against Atlanta in week 3, to a composed leader commanding his team in the huddle with a 102.9 QB rating in the last three games, was an important piece that was missing before.

There is no question that "Bones" Thigpen is getting more confident with each game and likewise, there is no question he is earning both the Chiefs coaches and teammates respect and confidence as well. Thigpen went over 100 passes since his last interception this afternoon. Something we couldn't even have imagined from what we saw of him in preseason or his previous appearances before the Jets game. Something has happend to him in that time.
It's not just Thigpen though. Mark Bradley, a player cut by the team that drafted him in the 2nd round, is also solidifying himself as the #2 receiver the Chiefs haven't had since the days of Carlos Carson and Stephon Paige. Tony Gonzalez continues to play as though he were in his prime, tying the record for most 100 yd receiving games for a TE in NFL history. The Chiefs defensive line recorded 2 sacks, including the long awaited first sack by Glenn Dorsey. The Chiefs defense with 4 players picked up off the street just last week was able to hold LaDanian Tomlinson to only 78 yards rushing, only 3.5 yards per carry.
It kind of makes you wonder how the game would have gone had several of the Chiefs playmakers: Brandon Flowers, Derrick Johnson and Larry Johnson; been in the game. Jamaal Charles also missed most of the game, only getting 3 carries because of aggravating his ankle injury.
Two weeks ago against the Jets, the Chiefs gave up the lead they had most of the game in the last 3 minutes. Last week against Tampa Bay, the Chiefs dominated them in the 1st half only to give up the lead in the waning seconds of the game. This week, the Chiefs came back and Thigpen delivered a clutch performance scoring what should have been the winning touchdown with only seconds remaining. Had it not been for a botched snap by a replacement long snapper on an earlier extra point try, that touchdown would have been the game winner for the Chiefs.
Unfortunately the 2 point conversion, which was by all means the correct call for a 1-7 team that had just lost the previous week in overtime without ever seeing the ball, was well defended and the Chiefs fell short once again.
Hard as it is to take such a disappointing loss, we remind ourselves that this season is not so much about winning, but about development of players and that development is well evident. Injuries to a team already lacking depth as the Chiefs are with many undrafted players in starting positions is crippling. But the players obviously are still playing hard and have been inspired by Thigpen.
Maybe next week (against New Orleans, eep!) will be the game they finally get over the hump.
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This team can only win if they play perfectly for 60 minutes
they really can’t overcome any mistakes or deficiencies.
NFL teams, even the best, play about 3 or 4 perfect games in a season
Just like last week, the team played well for a half, then tanked.
by sm7600 on
Nov 9, 2008 7:26 PM CST
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Something is said
or happens at the half and they come out flat. If things are working keep doing it till they stop you.
by Eric Allen on
Nov 9, 2008 7:29 PM CST
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Herm dropped his pants but didn't wear underwear during both half's
Grossed the team out and they lost their composure. You can quote me on that :)
Just keep matriculating the ball down the field boys.
by THE_TRUTH on
Nov 9, 2008 8:23 PM CST
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As I wrote late in the game thread,
I am totally sold on Thigpen, and he deserves to hold the job through next year. I was completely wrong about him (as almost everyone with eyes was too).
He has truly improved beyond any reasonable expectation. Granted, he isn’t Marino or Brady, but have we seen a Chiefs QB play any better since Trent Green?
The kid has earned the right to lose the job, if he ever does.
by DThomasReigns on
Nov 9, 2008 7:32 PM CST
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I say let him play out the year and compete for the job. Then again I'd say that for a veteran QB as well.
Just keep matriculating the ball down the field boys.
by THE_TRUTH on
Nov 9, 2008 8:24 PM CST
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The problem with that is that who your starting QB is will affect who you want to draft, and how you want to scheme next year. Won’t say that TT can’t lose the starting spot in pre-season (especially to better talent), but if TT proves competent through the rest of the season, we would be better-served to pass on early-round QBs, grab a ‘project’ QB later, and get reliable back-up in Huard, Croyle, or free agency. (Depends on the $$)
That would let us address needs at LB, O-line, and D-line, and maybe even upgrade at RB & WR. O-help will make TT better, especially if we draft with him and a scheme tailored to him in mind. This is a complex game, and getting our ducks lined up early is crucial – Herm’s been bad about being slow out of the gate in the regular season. Starting from “zero” at the start of pre-season won’t help, especially with our poor track record at evaluating the QB position.
by Bleedingredandgold on
Nov 9, 2008 8:37 PM CST
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Thigpen
the bad news: he mad a couple silly decisions -like when he ran out of bounds for a 2-yard “sack”. The good news about the bad news: The poor decisions weren’t all /that/ bad.
The good news, that’s 3 good games in a row. He ain’t a lock in my eyes until he’s finished the season playing well all the way, and getting a win or three, but he’s coming along. Seems to me that he’s doing better than, say, Eli Manning in /his/ first 3 games, and with less help on the field. Anyone know more how he stacks up against the good/great QBs in their rookie seasons?
For all that, it’s looking like Peterdaughter has managed to do something that has eluded him for over 16 years(About when i got to KC): grab a young QB who can lead our team, and grow into a reliable starter, as opposed to the string of re-treads and over-the-hill types (with the exception of Green, and the possible exception of Gannon – ‘possible’ wouldn’t be there if he’d won the starting job), and even those two were imports with limited life expectancies on the field. Or am I wrong on that count, and CP found a young QB, with a long future ahead of him, that I’ve not heard about?
The most positive thing I’m seeing is that for whatever reason, the Chiefs and not subbornly trying to stick to the consHermative smash-mouth appoach. Chan appears to be adjusting the offense to fit the personnel, rather than trying to make the personnel fit the scheme.
They /do/ need to realize that the consHermative approach won’t work in the third quarter, given that this D isn’t dominant. They have to keep scoring points, and not worry so much about burning clock – ‘cause that ain’t working. Other teams don’t fear this D, and they don’t panic just because they are a couple scores down. Therefor, the real way to take the pressure off the D, is to stretch that lead, and I believe that this O can do that.it ain’t the Greatest Show on Turf Mk III, but TT’s shown he can get them into the end zone. 3rd Q, they need to come out with both guns blazing! That will let the D worry less, and react more, and up the pressure on the opposing Offenses. That strategy won’t guarantee that the other O will screw up, but it should help.
But however it breaks, I’m looking forward to next week!
by Bleedingredandgold on
Nov 9, 2008 8:24 PM CST
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Bones last 3 games
66-102 710 yards 6 TDs 0 INTs 0 Fumbles lost
^ I’ll take that from a QB every time.
by DThomasReigns on
Nov 9, 2008 8:27 PM CST
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Not included, and more important, has been his composure.
by DThomasReigns on
Nov 9, 2008 8:29 PM CST
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on decision making
he makes Croyle look sick. Durability, too. Maybe Croyle will work out with a new contract, as a back-up. A few years to learn, heal up & condition might even give him another shot as a starter, in the future.
Didn’t getting that sort of rest help Green out?
by Bleedingredandgold on
Nov 9, 2008 8:42 PM CST
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Conventional Wisdom
is that a rookie/first-year QB won’t be competitive with the average veteran QB. I’d say that TT’s exceeded that.
by Bleedingredandgold on
Nov 9, 2008 8:39 PM CST
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Also a TD reception :)
Indecision is the key to flexibility
by cmpotter on
Nov 9, 2008 8:55 PM CST
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fixed - "most awesome TD reception EVER"
by DThomasReigns on
Nov 9, 2008 9:09 PM CST
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Thank you I left that out
Indecision is the key to flexibility
by cmpotter on
Nov 9, 2008 9:12 PM CST
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New Nickname for Herm
Pat
Blame my wife!
by sir eccles on
Nov 9, 2008 9:44 PM CST
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Don't Understand the Complaints
I look at it in perspective. The Chiefs went on the road missing key starters. They were huge underdogs against a completely healthy Chargers team that is what, 2nd or 3rd in the league for offense. We held a resergent LT to just under 80 yards. We were plus in takeaways. Thigpen was awesome. The play calling was great. The effort all around and improvement by the Defense was excellent. Pass protection was pretty solid. We had starters that werent even on a team last week. We had almost as many practice squad and back up players on the field as “normal” starters.
We lost, but put up a damn good fight against a good team. I am incredibly proud of my Chiefs, both players and coaches, for their performance today.
by TXChiefan on
Nov 9, 2008 10:03 PM CST
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I NEVER want to hear anyone say
that you have to win the turnover battle to win the game.
Clearly we’ve proven that you actually have to play well to do win as well.
by sm7600 on
Nov 9, 2008 10:05 PM CST
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1-8 never felt better
The Chiefs are definitely headed in the right direction. I’m lovin our QB. I love the fact that he’s redeemed himself entirely and proved many of us wrong, myself included. The dude is kickin serious ass. I’d like to see where he rates among other QBs in the NFL over the past 3 weeks.
Right now, I think I’d just like to see them continue to build momentum and win more games than they lose here on out. I know a lot of you would like to see us finish dead last because of the draft, but I think it’s more important that they start to build a winning spirit going into next season. At this point, I’d like to see most of the coaching staff return next year and continue to build this team. I have to say I’m a believer now.
by ChiefsDude on
Nov 9, 2008 10:26 PM CST
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I know we've all been
congratulating the team, and especially Herm, for making the decision to go for the two-point conversion. I would like to say, however, that I’m not so happy with the game as a whole – the decision not to go for it on fourth-and-2 from our 46 right after Rivers’ second INT was, in my mind at least, very questionable. Also, there were some odd play calls (this falls on Gailey) on a few makeable third down situations – like the pass in the flat to Savage on third-and-5.
That being said, I still can’t find it in me to be too mad about any of those things. Once again, the team showed obvious progress – we seem to have found a #2 WR and a QB, the offensive line is showing signs of improvement, we were able to get pressure on the QB while rushing just the 4 down linemen, and our defense may well be fairly good once we can get the M*A*S*H helicopters away from the field.
by Seth_C on
Nov 10, 2008 12:00 AM CST
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On the 4th-and-2
I felt exactly the same way, when you are down on the road and there is less than 5 min to play I feel you have to go for all 4th downs that are not longer than 5 yards. So often you don’t get the ball back and you run out of time, I think we were luck that we even had the chance to decide the 2 point conversion. But that was a small complaint in the scheme of things.
Also I am starting to get pissed at the Refs, we are getting screwed by the no calls this year.
by tevans96 on
Nov 10, 2008 12:04 AM CST
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On the pass to Savage
The throw was a bit off. Savage had to go out of his way to make the catch. I like his chances in the open field if he could have gotten the ball in stride.
That call I thought was ok. We just screwed it up. There were some other ones that I felt were a bit odd. Still not sure about giving the up-back the ball on the goalline.
by NJChiefsFan on
Nov 10, 2008 6:22 AM CST
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