But what were those coaches records when they were where Harmageddon is now? That would be even more telling, and I may get the drive to do a comparison in a little while.

Who once noted that talent usually shone over the course of the season but success in the playoffs was often more about luck because of the small sample size of game. Or as some other people on this site have noted…it’s pretty tough for a coach to win a Super Bowl when his team doesn’t win enough games to get into the playoffs consistently.

Here’s the thing that’s always kind of irritated me about the Herm and Carl apologists’ defenses of the team as well. They sit around and make up all of these excuses for why Herm and Carl keep losing games this year and how we just need to have a little patience for the rebuilding effort and it will all work out…but what makes them think that Herm and Carl will ever get to the playoffs? Herm’s never gotten close to winning a Super Bowl…he’s never even won his division. Carl hasn’t built a team capable of winning even one playoff game in over a decade and the closest he ever got to a Super Bowl was a team that got stomped in the AFC Championship Game in 1994. So why would anyone in their right mind think that just because they’re “rebuilding” that means we’ll someday be competing for a championship when it’s more likely that the best case scenario is that this team might win nine or 10 games a year and get to the second round of the playoffs. Nothing in Herm’s or Carl’s resumes has shown they’re capable of reaching (or winning in) the playoffs consistently. What’s more likely is that Peterson’s “plan” is giving us a rotten team this season so we might be able to have more mediocre teams in three or four seasons.

Going back to the 1990 season in the NFL there has only been one coach in all those years with a winning % below .500. That would be Bill Callahan of the Oakland Raiders, he coached all of 2 seasons. He lost the super bowl his first season then posted a 4-12 record the next and was gone with a .469 winning % for his career.

Because he was never a coordinator. He was in one of those “assistant head coach” type gigs which always seemed to me to be something of a scam for guys the head coach liked to pad their resume by insinuating that they were in charge without them actually having to learn how to do anything other than be a position coach.

I suspect that his lack of any experience as a coordinator is a large part of why Herm’s such a clueless head coach.

They don’t disclose the terms of deals, so they aren’t going to say if he is on the hot seat until he is gone.

Where he talked about how he’d never really wanted to be a head coach…he’d wanted to work with about 8 or 9 guys and build something from there. I suspect that Herm’s a victim of the Peter Principle with his highest level of competence being the DB coach.

Hello kids, I’m Herm Edwards and I live in a van DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!!

200 wins
126 losses
1 tie (tell Donanvan McNabb they have ties in regular season games)
.613 percentage

I know the playoff losses were hard to take, but it sure was great to have one of the best coaches of all time leading our team. The thing I think people fail to realize about Marty is that he was very very good at getting his teams to overachieve. When you go back and look at the years he took us to the playoff and look at the teams we lost to the other team almost always had more talent.

Marty was exceptionally good at taking the garbage that Peterson would give him and turn it into a winning team. The problem is once you make it to the playoffs you are going against other top quality coaches so if your team is less talented and the coaches are about even then the more talented team will win. The best seasons we ever had, in the playoffs, were when we had a washed up QB who is in the discussion of GOAT at his position.

Marty gets more with less, Edwards on the other hand gets less with more. See http://www.advancednflstats.com/2007/06/rating-gameday-head-coaches.html for a reference.

And here http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ you can sort all the coaches in history by clicking on "W-L %", Marty is up there with good company and you can see for yourself who Edwards is around (I don’t recognize half the names).