Far be it for me to pass along advice to Clark Hunt. This is his business and he understands all...

Far be it for me to pass along advice to Clark Hunt. This is his business and he understands all angles of the franchise far better than me or anybody in the media. But if he really likes Edwards ideas and his way of rebuilding the franchise, then he should step forward and make it obvious.

With the money coaches make today, 10-year contracts will never happen. But Hunt could make a major statement by announcing tomorrow that he’s given Edwards a five-year contract extension. Along with the final year of his first deal, that would take the head coach into the 2014 season.

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I'm a day late on this but it's an interesting suggestion that's sure to generate some conversation.

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If Clark Hunt Gives Herm A Five Year Extension After This Season

I will write a scathing post about my feelings about the Hunt family’s ownership of the Kansas City Chiefs, then I will officially give up on the team. Life’s too short to waste time hoping that a bunch of losers will finally get their act together.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 21, 2008 10:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

How is that different than any other day? :)

In all seriousness, what possible reason would Clark have for giving Herm a long term contract?

I’m fully on board with the rebuilding process and think that it is critical that Herm stays on board until it is complete (which it should be close enough to expect at least an 8-8 season next year), but it remains to be seen whether once the team is mostly assymbled whether Herm can win with it or not.

He is bringing in good players now, which I think is the more important than someone that is good at calling a game at this point, but in another year we should be moving from player evaluating/rebuilding to expecting to actually win. There are legitimate reasons for concern about some of the things Herm does managing games, and I’m not nitpicking as some do.

I think we bring Herm back next year no matter what, but next year with a good offseason, he should have enough talent to be fairly evaluated of his own merit as an in game coach and it will be time to start seeing some victories. If he can’t deliver, we should thank him for bringing in such great talent and go looking for a good game managing coach.

by ChiefDJ on Nov 21, 2008 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm Not Even Going To Concede Him The Great Players

Right now Hali’s looking like a bust and Croyle was a bust so the 2006 draft was pretty much the same as the 2005 draft…below average (only two starters out of each). Maybe the 2007 and 2008 drafts are better, but for the 2007 draft Turk and Tank haven’t been particularly promising in their second season (one sack between them and one’s out for the season already) and the only player who’s looking like a good starter is Dwayne Bowe…Taylor and Smith are apparently best suited as backups. Free agency’s been pretty much a disaster the last two year (Adrian Jones, McIntosh, Harris, Williams, Kyle Turley, Chris Terry…all disasters). They lucked out on Thigpen but overall the guys they’ve picked up midseason (Bradley in particular) have been better than the guys they’ve targeted in the offseason and that’s a major problem.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 21, 2008 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Correction

Neither Turk nor Tank have a single sack this season (I was thinking of Hali). I’ve said before that linemen can take some time to develop but that little production over the amount of time they’ve had is not a good sign at all.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 21, 2008 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I know you won't

But its a difference of opinion and we will see how these players look as time goes by.

by ChiefDJ on Nov 21, 2008 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

25 Games For Turk McBride

One sack. That’s horrible, even for a young guy.

It’s also one more sack than Tank Tyler has in 24 games.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 21, 2008 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone thinks 3 years is the charm

so I say it’s still too early to tell

by Vince D on Nov 22, 2008 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Why do people keep saying 1 out of the last 22?

I’m pretty positive it’s one out of the last 19. 9 game losing streak last year, 1-9 this year. That’s 19 games.

by Vince D on Nov 22, 2008 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

"Taylor and Smith are apparently best suited as backups."

Crazy, huh? A 5th and 6th round pick not starting! Ridiculous!

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 22, 2008 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Just Saying

We got two guys out of the 2006 draft who appear to be starting material (Pollard and Page) and we seem to have busted on two of our three first day picks. When you combine that with management’s failures in free agency you’re probably not going to build much of a team drafting two good players a year.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Extreme

will officially give up on the team. Life’s too short to waste time hoping that a bunch of losers will finally get their act together.

I am sure many Cowboys fans said the same thing when Landry was floundering,..

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 22, 2008 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And They Finally Fired Him And Brought In Jimmy Johnson

Oh wait…you’re talking about back when they were an expansion franchise and teams didn’t have free agency to build their rosters so they had to go almost exclusively through the draft? Yeah, that situation is totally comparable to the Chiefs in today’s NFL. Except for the small stickler that it isn’t comparable at all because the Chiefs aren’t an expansion team and the NFL does have free agency now.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2008 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Plus

Their entire management team was starting from scratch in Landry’s first year…they didn’t have a GM who’s been running the team into the ground for a decade before Landry showed up. So Landry deserved a little more slack than a coach walking into a situation where he was handed a talented team.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And don't forget, today's NFL is made so teams can be instantly competitive.

The NFL doesn’t want franchises to spend half a decade turning things around.

See – Falcons, Atlanta; Dolphins, Miami; ~~Rams, St. Louis~~

by DThomasReigns on Nov 22, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Note The Common Thread In Those Examples

The two teams on that list that are winning fired the people that were in charge when they were losing. The Rams kept the same management team and coaching staff in charge and (surprise, surprise) they still stink. You could add the Raiders to that list of “teams that keep re-inventing a square wheel and hoping it’ll work this time”.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2008 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm...Wonder Why I Don't Seem To Be Going As Fast As The Other Guys...

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2008 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

what a great picture!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Nov 22, 2008 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Here's A Bit Of Interesting Trivia

Before the Cowboys’ inaugural season in 1960, they were not given a single selection in the 1960 NFL draft. They had to make due with the players they got from the expansion draft and whatever scraps they could find on waivers or among unsigned players. That’s why Landry went 0-11 his first year. After that first season Landry then never had a another with a winning percentage as low as what Herm’s posted the last two years, until 1988 when he went 3-13 and got fired.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2008 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

5 year extension...are you f^cking kidding me?

We all know Gretz is a mouthpiece, but that isn’t even based in reality. That is why i stopped reading bobgretz.com in the preseason.

spin…spin…spin.

by DThomasReigns on Nov 21, 2008 10:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Also, contract extensions are generally given to coaches who do not go 1-18.

Contract extensions generally do not go to coaches whose 9-7 team backs into the playoffs, a year after his former team went 4-12, to then set a record for lowest offensive post-season output in history. Or for setting Club records for losing in margin, yards allowed, etc.

Or, since that record setting playoff loss, fielding a record offensively inept offense for the next 2 seasons. Or, for setting team record losing streaks. Or, for also having a defense that has continually become worse under his watch to become the worst in the league.

Or for mismanaging games and driving a team into the ground like he did at his previous job.

Did I mention he is 1-18 in the last 19 games? Sounds like a 5 year extension earner to me!

Yeah, “far be it for” you, Bob, to tell Clark what to do…and thank, god, for that.

by DThomasReigns on Nov 21, 2008 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I Honestly Can't Tell

If Gretz sucks off Herm and Carl so much because he’s just earning a paycheck or if he does it because he seriously believes that they’re good at what they do.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 21, 2008 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I have to believe that no person can be that stupid. It has to be the paycheck.

by DThomasReigns on Nov 21, 2008 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

One Would Hope

But who really knows. Most people who write for a living don’t write things they believe to be patently false…to save their own credibility if nothing else.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 21, 2008 11:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Why only 5 years?

Why only a puny 5-year extension? What an insult after all Herm’s accomplished here. Why not a 10 year extension? Herm has earned it. He won one of his last 22 games. How many other coaches could pull that off? We need to lock him up NOW before he leaves us. What would happen if Herm left? Then we’d be in trouble. We’d probably look back on the 1 for 22 streak as the golden age.

Usually coaches that win one out of the last 22 games get long contract extensions, I must assume from this article.

But Herm would probably turn down a mere 5-year extension, I’m sure loads of other teams would love to hire him away from us if we only offer him 5 more years. Why not 15 years? Or 30 more years? Hell, why not 70 more years? Why not change the name of the team to the Kansas City Herm Edwardses after all he’s accomplished? Why not change the name of the city to Herman Edwards, Missouri? Would that be enough to keep this hot property from leaving the Chiefs for another team?

He’s 1 for 22, he needs a big reward! We should give the Jets more draft picks to make up for them letting us have Herm Edwards after all he’s done. Let’s send everyone named Brandon to the Jets as a post-trade reward for them giving us the great Herm for only a 4th round draft choice. It’s the least we can do to pay them back for all the great things that have happened to the franchise since Herm came aboard.

If you are a member of the reality based community, then I apologize for this post. For everyone else, let’s talk about how many more years the Chiefs should pay Herman Edwards for all he’s accomplished here. 40 years? 70? Why not 100 more years? Why don’t I set myself on fire?

by Offense of the 70s on Nov 22, 2008 12:03 AM CST reply actions 1 recs

Best Comment EVER!!! :)

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2008 12:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Why do people keep saying 1 out of 22?

I’m pretty positive it’s one out of 19. 9 game losing streak last year and 1-9 this year. 9+1+9=19… right?

by Vince D on Nov 22, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Someone Miscounted

You are correct.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2008 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Being a Kansas City Chief fan

is like being in a bad relationship with someone you’ve grown up with your entire life. The reason you stick with them is because you have history and hope they’ll get their act together and turn it around. Your conscious knows better though and tells you to move on all the while your heart tells you to stay….

Bob Gretz is the utter definition of the word “tool”. I don’t know what I can stand more his voice or brown nose. I like visiting his site for the news but the commentary is enough to make you gag

by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 22, 2008 12:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

The only way I am

pulling for a multi-year ext. for Hermie is if the R2-P2 is guaranteed to be used every series, and we keep the cover 2, and keep getting players who do not excel in it!:)

by Eric Allen on Nov 22, 2008 8:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs