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Tampa Bay Bucs At Kansas City Chiefs 2nd Half Thread

Chiefs 24 Bucs 13

Who are these guys on offense?  See what a little creativity can do.  We are on our way to having season highs in all offensive statistics.  Let's see if the second half is as good to us as the first half was.

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Those penalties are killing us

Holding in the red zone and roughing the passer on third and long

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 1:40 PM CST reply actions  

d-line

how is the d-line looking?

"stuck in Dallas"

by johnnyo_99 on Nov 2, 2008 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

not bad at all

DJ is hurt though, which could end up being bad

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like we have been fortunate picking up Weatherford

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Nov 2, 2008 1:59 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

their defense is playing good. deflecting the ball quiet often. also a few dropped balls.

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Rushing yards

Bucs – 42 yds
Chiefs – 109 yds

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 2:10 PM CST reply actions  

DJ Hammy

Return is questionable

by ashleylat on Nov 2, 2008 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

Who is playing RG and RT for the Chiefs?

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Nov 2, 2008 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

We are committing some dumb penalties

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Nov 2, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions  

Brackenridge with the 10 yd holding penalty

That’s a good way to get yourself noticed on your first week back

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 2:14 PM CST reply actions  

If they score a TD

Do you guys think they’d go for 2?

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 2:27 PM CST reply actions  

good ?

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Nov 2, 2008 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't think so either

but I’m sure it’s something Gruden would think about

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

Yes,

fumble city = Arrowhead Stadium, MO

by ilamuku on Nov 2, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

wide open

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Nov 2, 2008 2:32 PM CST reply actions  

Hey I just got home from work

this game is a lot closer than I was expecting

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 2:32 PM CST reply actions  

Have there been

any major injuries?

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

Ouch

Thanks Vince D

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

we need a 10 minute drive

ending with a TD

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Nov 2, 2008 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

Wow

A return, and fumble on the three. Im happy because we’ve out-played them.

by GHOST OF DT on Nov 2, 2008 2:38 PM CST reply actions  

Wow

Huuuuuge break. Don’t blow it now

by Pauli on Nov 2, 2008 2:38 PM CST reply actions  

Yes

Keep doing that. We should let him do that more often.

by Pauli on Nov 2, 2008 2:39 PM CST reply actions  

I'm looking through the stats online

is the reception td to Thigpen right?

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 2:40 PM CST reply actions  

remember I just got home

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep!

It was in-freaking-credible!

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

Set it up with a direct snap to Charles then did it again but instead of running he flipped it to Bradley and Barber bit on the fake. Thiggy wide open.

by Pauli on Nov 2, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome!!

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

That was nice!

We got a steal with Charles.

by ilamuku on Nov 2, 2008 2:42 PM CST reply actions  

bless in disguise

these injuries and supensions are working very well in our favor…

"stuck in Dallas"

by johnnyo_99 on Nov 2, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

should have ran

ran for the first then throw for the TD

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 2:45 PM CST reply actions  

we're running so well

there is no reason to try and pass it

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 2:45 PM CST reply actions  

amazing

i think chan/herm try to get to cute sometimes “they will think run so lets pass it!”

"stuck in Dallas"

by johnnyo_99 on Nov 2, 2008 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

up by 8

Cut them some slack. If we ran 1/2 the people on here would be bitching

by ashleylat on Nov 2, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Mighta been good D on TB's part

TV guys called it a blown-up screen – screens are more running plays than passing

by Bleedingredandgold on Nov 2, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

atleast

we have a consistant kicker.

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 2:47 PM CST reply actions  

Run

the ball on 3rd and 1 and you win the game. Pass it and settle for 3, they still have a chance!!!!!!!!!

by GHOST OF DT on Nov 2, 2008 2:47 PM CST reply actions  

sux

a TD would have sealed the deal.

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 2:48 PM CST reply actions  

yup

with stupid penalties and kickoff and punting coverage. we need a pick here.

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Come on

our D needs to show up now. we need to stop em.

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 2:54 PM CST reply actions  

The D

is forcing a lot of turnovers.

by ilamuku on Nov 2, 2008 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

wow

just wow

"stuck in Dallas"

by johnnyo_99 on Nov 2, 2008 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

Go Tamba!

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

Ugh

Gotta rely on the replay now. Come on, Ed, give us a break.

by Pauli on Nov 2, 2008 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

What are they challenging?

the fumble or the recovery?

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 2:57 PM CST reply actions  

fumble

challenging if its a fumble

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks,

online radio not working on my computer and am just reading the little blurbs on NFL.com

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Fumble

Bernard Pollard’s ass blocking the view may save us here…

by Pauli on Nov 2, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Rushing yards

Bucs – 65
Chiefs – 171

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 2:58 PM CST reply actions  

Rushing yards

Bucs-65
Charles-99

Yeah Baby!

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy crap,

that was a nice catch!

by ilamuku on Nov 2, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

Great catch

Not much of a push. He gets mugged all the time…

by Pauli on Nov 2, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

once per game

always…why does he always get called…

"stuck in Dallas"

by johnnyo_99 on Nov 2, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

shit pissed me off

i bet if you checked he has another record… most Offensive Pass interference calls in a season

"stuck in Dallas"

by johnnyo_99 on Nov 2, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

That's it,

I’m picking Charles up for my fantasy team.

by ilamuku on Nov 2, 2008 3:02 PM CST reply actions  

shit

damnit we couldnt get the first.

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 3:03 PM CST reply actions  

100+ yard game for Charles

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 3:03 PM CST reply actions  

kcchiefsfan56

alright we need the D to put the hammer down!

by kcchiefsfan56 on Nov 2, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

lets recap

Roughing the passer on 3rd and long, holding in the red zone, offensive pass interference on a catch that would end the game, and there was one other i think that gave the a first down on third down?

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

dammit

50yd line…

"stuck in Dallas"

by johnnyo_99 on Nov 2, 2008 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

talk about good field position

by Shawn on Nov 2, 2008 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

hmmmm

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Nov 2, 2008 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

Good thing herm

called a timeout to set that up…dbag

by ashleylat on Nov 2, 2008 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

c'mon

you’d be cursing him no matter what happened…

"stuck in Dallas"

by johnnyo_99 on Nov 2, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

no it wasn't...

after the penalty for false start at the end of the game they start the clock as soon as it’s spotted.

by ashleylat on Nov 2, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm

i’m watching on nfl.com…so i might be off

"stuck in Dallas"

by johnnyo_99 on Nov 2, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

we scored all of our points early in the game and let them come back

by Shawn on Nov 2, 2008 3:13 PM CST reply actions  

come on savage

get a kick off return for a TD

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

First half – 24 points
Second half – 3 points

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

Bad

coaching. Good for our draft hopes though.

by GHOST OF DT on Nov 2, 2008 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

yes

very bad coaching 2nd half. now lets tear it up second half.

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

local channel here in Indy

swithcing to cover the game ttyl

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Nov 2, 2008 3:16 PM CST reply actions  

That

pass on 3rd and 1 really bothers me!! Are we trying to lose?

by GHOST OF DT on Nov 2, 2008 3:19 PM CST reply actions  

Shoot, I don't!

My sis was there—they were psyched. Sucks that the Chiefs lost, but that was one hell of a game. If that was the Steelers and the Redskins on MNF, we’d be thrilled.

"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds

by webby37 on Nov 2, 2008 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

first down

this game might just be over

by Vince D on Nov 2, 2008 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

This sucks

Another epic collapse of our own making…

by Pauli on Nov 2, 2008 3:24 PM CST reply actions  

No fucking way

If this penalty screws us…

by Pauli on Nov 2, 2008 3:26 PM CST reply actions  

I hate Gruden

and I hate that we should have won this game and screwed ourselves over.

by Pauli on Nov 2, 2008 3:31 PM CST reply actions  

geez

what a game. horrid playcalling second half lost the game.

by nfamous209 on Nov 2, 2008 3:31 PM CST reply actions  

on the bright side (such as it is)

Chiefs still showed some improvment. They did pretty well against 2 legit teams. A W would have been better, of course.

by Bleedingredandgold on Nov 2, 2008 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

Caption for R.Barber and Gruden after the kick...

“Thank god you tripped, or we would have lost the game!”-gruden

by Dustin SLO,CA on Nov 2, 2008 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

one thing i liked

Thigpen stepped up his game. again.

He earned the next start.

by bigbearomaha on Nov 2, 2008 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

how?

just because of no int? How many passing yards?

by sm7600 on Nov 2, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess you missed

his constant movement, making the throws and putting himself out there at every chance.

by bigbearomaha on Nov 2, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

200 yards of offense out of your QB

will not win many games in the NFL

On the other hand when a rag arm like Jeff Garcia lights you up for 340…

by sm7600 on Nov 2, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

technically

our QB had the game wrapped up in the first half.

Where was the defense cuz it looked like the cheerleaders took the filed when the offense left the filed.

and, pardon my failing memory, isn’t defense Herm’s specialty?

by bigbearomaha on Nov 2, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

if you're asking why Herm still has a job

I can’t answer the question. I said he was a bad hire from the beginning. I have seen nothing to change my mind since.

by sm7600 on Nov 2, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

well then

We agree on one thing at least.

by bigbearomaha on Nov 2, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

?

Do you live a happy life, or do you find the negatives in EVERYTHING?

by Spinner215 on Nov 2, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I apologize

for seeing reality as it is and not being able to wear your rose tinted glasses.

by bigbearomaha on Nov 2, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

He looked pretty good to me.

No INTs, made some good decisions, threw some accurate passes, scored a couple TDs, made the O-line look better, saw a few blitzes & got rid of it, ran for some positive yards, all on his 3rd start…

Not good enough for you? You want Croyle back, or Huard?

by Bleedingredandgold on Nov 2, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeff Garcia wouldn't be bad

seeing as how he lit the Chiefs up

by sm7600 on Nov 2, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder

who Herm will blame the loss on this time, cuz it’s never ever Herm’s fault.

by bigbearomaha on Nov 2, 2008 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

107-143

Herm’s updated win loss record…..and countng. sounds lke a good prospect for a head coaching job, huh?

by cx2chad on Nov 2, 2008 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

nfl ot sucks

i don’t like it. its crappy. it always feels very crappy.
and gonz had no more contact then that puny little d-back did-that catch was the play of the day and it was taking away-the game winner.

and yeah-we lost it ourselves too.
and yeah-herm is a germ.

draft picks..think draft picks………..

by KCWolfff on Nov 2, 2008 3:37 PM CST reply actions  

He won't ever take the blame.

Even though it should always rest on the coach. The players do what they’re told (mostly). He definitely wasn’t trying to “win” in the 2nd half.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Nov 2, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I am with Herm on this one....

…Actually I might blame injuries more…I think if Flowers and DJ didnt get hurt we would have won…Flowers wouldnt have allowed that…hopefully…

by woodman212 on Nov 2, 2008 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

Special thanks to majapapa

Thanks for the live game feed! No comment on the game, we all have heard it before and will hear again after the next loss.

by TouchdownKansasCity on Nov 2, 2008 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

I still see positives out of this one...

The return game is good enough that no one’s bitching. Coverage needs work, though.

O-line did better – good running game, against a legit run D. Pass blocking was a little better, but needs work. Herm needs to learn to trust the passing game more, to keep the run game gong. IMO, that’s what killed them in the second half. WRs need work, hopefully, more practice time with Thiggy will help get them in synch.

TT just put together back-to-back good games. Give him the next start, keep working with him. He’s done better that Croyle has, on that count, even if they lost both of them.
Even with LJ gone, we had a running game.

Coaching needs to learn from this one, but they were more aggressive than usual for a while. TT got a couple shots down the field.

D-line was better, got more of a push against the pass. Ain’t there yet, but better. Pass coverage didn’t really suck, until Flowers went out. Hope he’s OK. Boy, we need help at linebacker.

Downside: stupid penalties. Young players need to learn some poise. Take away that roughing call, and they win it, and maybe one or two other penalties.

My take: I could see the pieces on the field, they just need to put together a coherent game, and play all 60 minutes. Do that, and they can compete.

Chin up, fellow Chiefs fans. Things are looking up! What was the spread on this one, anyway?

by Bleedingredandgold on Nov 2, 2008 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

Absolutely....

….That is what this season is about…for sure…good observations…

We are improving every week

by woodman212 on Nov 2, 2008 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Now, if only Herm...

Realized that /he/ needs to improve every week, too. Not to mention the rest of the coaching staff… :-(

by Bleedingredandgold on Nov 2, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

You’re dead on. We all knew we were gonna suck, so don’t get pissed if we narrowly lose—remember Atlanta?

They’re getting a hell of a lot better, and whether or not we’ve got a QBOTF in Thugpen (trying it out), we know we got an athlete that will do whatever the hell he has to to win.

Offensive playcalling was solid at first but got very… flaccid. That’s right. I used that word.

Defensively… I feel like we played the “give ’em five to keep them from getting 60” technique well, except TB used it 12 times. MATH JOKE.

I’m proud of ‘em, fellas. I took the dog to the park and didn’t threaten to kick her like every other week.

-cw

"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds

by webby37 on Nov 2, 2008 7:00 PM CST reply actions  

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