Chiefs Injury Situation is Ridiculous

by Chris on Nov 11, 2008 4:47 PM CST in 2008 Campaign Comment 21 comments

Bob Gretz breaks down just how ridiculous the Kansas City Chiefs injury situation has gotten in Week 11.

DE Brian Johnston is out with a calf injury. He’s a candidate for the Injured Reserve List.
DE Tamba Hali questionable with an ankle injury.
LB Derrick Johnson is out with his sore hamstring.
CB Pat Surtain is questionable with his quad injury.
LB Pat Thomas out with a hamstring injury.
RG Adrian Jones is out with a right ankle injury.
CB Brandon Flowers is questionable with a hamstring.
S DaJuan Morgan is questionable with a hamstring.
DE Turk McBride is questionable with a shoulder injury. He could also be a candidate for the IR list.
RB Jamaal Charles is questionable with his sprained ankle.

Undoubtedly, some of these guy's health will improve over the week and they'll take the field on Sunday. It's been a bad year to be a Chiefs quarterback, running back, linebacker or defensive end. And quite frankly, to see any improvement in the midst of all of these injuries adds to the hard work the Chiefs are doing during the week.

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Doesn't anyone ever stretch anymore

Seems like quite a few hamstring injuries.

Indecision is the key to flexibility

by cmpotter on Nov 11, 2008 4:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

That

Would probably be a question for the strength and conditioning coach.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe we need a new one.

I understand a lot of injuries can’t be helped, but come on.

Indecision is the key to flexibility

by cmpotter on Nov 11, 2008 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Effort

I’m sure much of it comes from these guys trying hard, putting in the efforts of their lives trying to make plays and win for the team. At the same time, I agree that there must be some sort of problem in the strength and conditioning program and time spent working on flexibility. These guys are like high speed race cars and if they have even the slightest weakness, something will blow out.

This is surprisingly like the Bills last year, with about 17 players on IR. I know many teams are having injury troubles, but I am not used to it being the Chiefs. It does seem excessive this year.

On the positive side, most of the injuries just take some rest to recover from and we are getting great looks at the talent of our backups, practice squad and new “diamonds in the rough” from waivers. This isn’t a year that we should even care about being the West leaders, that will be next year, so the more players we can identify as quality keepers, and develop for the future, the better. I am still positive and excited about the progress. The Saints game will be another adventure and our first victory of many to come.

by TXChiefan on Nov 11, 2008 7:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It's Just Like PT In The Army

When you tailor the PT program for the soldiers to the physical expectations of the jobs they’re required to do, you’ll get soldiers who perform better at their jobs and get injured less…when you tailor the PT program to just passing the PT test, you’ll get soldiers who excel at push-ups, sit-ups, and sometimes running but probably aren’t set up for success in their real-world mission. The Chiefs strike me right now as a bunch of athletes who aren’t very well trained physically to withstand the strains of the jobs they’re being given.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 7:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I can agree

and understand completely, but there are times when you push way beyond your limits and continue to put out tremendous effort, even when you know you shouldn’t. To continue your example, sometimes soldiers should go on sick call, but don’t, because they don’t want to look weak, especially in a combat or field setting. When called upon to react and push to their normal limit, the body just can’t take it.

I’m not saying this is the cause for all the Chiefs injuries, but for example JC. He most likely should have stayed out this past game, but wanted to be the #1 so badly and help the team to win, tried to push through the pain of his sprain the week prior. I’d bet he wasn’t the only one. These guys are becoming a tight knit unit, and want to be there for each other and win. I think they hate losing worse than we hate watching it. I’m just saying that I’d imagine the majority of them will do almost anything to prove themselves tough enough and good enough to perform and win games.

by TXChiefan on Nov 11, 2008 7:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I Don't Really Question The Players' Desire

My disagreements generally lie with how well the coaching staff prepares them for success or how effectively they’re using the talent of the players they have.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's what I respect about your comments

Sometimes I disagree with your comments, but I do know that you are sincerely looking at the best for the team. I hope that you are wrong about the coaching weaknesses and inability to do their jobs and will tell you so, but sometimes I am afraid you are right. I do like your frankness and insight.

I am very happy to see the changes in Herm’s philosophy over the past couple of weeks, and hope that he is also growing and learning to adapt to overcome. Hopefully he can pass that attitude on to the rest of the staff. I absolutely hope that he is sitting there in his office right now trying to figure out if there is a coaching change or addition needed. I haven’t been too satisfied with the strength program, O-Line, or Special Team’s coaching. Hopefully something will change….if not the productivity, then the coach. Everyone must be accountable for his area.

by TXChiefan on Nov 11, 2008 7:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm Glad They Went With The Spread Offense Too

There are critics out there who question the long-term effectiveness of it, but even if it hasn’t translated into wins at least it’s made the team watchable. I don’t know that I could have made it through an entire season of watching that gawdawful smashmouth football they tried to play despite not having the personnel. Now at least the team has a shot to win because they can score points. Unfortunately my reservations with Herm’s playcalling and game management skills remain about the same.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You do give me a good laugh every day

I know you want to be positive, but don’t have anything to put faith into Herm. I’ll give him this as a positive from todays interview – "We’re not going to change what we do for the next seven weeks and hopefully we’ll improve on it."

I think if they start using who they have to work with and mix it up with the O, then we may actually win a few games. I’d love to see us use LJ as a decoy and continue letting Thigpen work his game, then when the field is opened up, plow LJ through their line. The mix of power and finesse should be a great match for us. Now, we just need the D to keep improving. Last week, even with the injuries, we held a very healthy and productive offense to less than their normal yardage and points, and won the turnover battle. Good signs. I can just imagine their crying about how we nearly knocked them off.

It is coming my friend.

by TXChiefan on Nov 11, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

By The Way

Happy Veteran’s Day. Don’t know if you’re still deployed to Iraq, but just wanted to send regards, thank you for your service and hope you guys are keeping yourselves safe over there.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

With all sincerity

THANK YOU! Same to all of you who have ever served. God bless this awesome country of ours and the men and women who proudly serve it.

I’m at approx 81 days remaining on my tour, and then home to my wonderful family in El Paso. Thanks for thinking of all those deployed.

by TXChiefan on Nov 11, 2008 7:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No Worries

Back in 2003 I was sitting over in Afghanistan on Veterans Day and many of my family and friends were good enough to write, which was greatly appreciated. Same goes for you guys…no matter where people might stand on the war, they’re grateful for the service you’re rendering.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Happy Veterans Day

To both of you! I was raised by a WW2 Vet, it bothers me that it seems not many people respect the flag, and the men/women who fight to keep it free, thank you all! Let us not forget the men/women who have given the ultimate sacrifice. Stay safe TX Chieffan! Keep your head down!

by Eric Allen on Nov 11, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thank You

and I will for sure. Keep this in mind though. EVERY day is American day, and those that stay home and work to keep America strong, and driving on, is what makes me proud. I will say this: I didn’t vote for Pres Elect Obama, but I am proud to have him as our president and will serve him and respect him as the president, because America chose him. I don’t agree with liberal philosophies, but hey, they don’t agree with mine, so we will come to a concensus and do the best for our country. I will pray for him and all of our elected leaders.

Being here in Iraq and having been literally all over the world in countries where their politics are at the end of a gun, gives me hope and the knowledge that we do have the greatest country on earth. UC knows exactly what I’m talking about.

I take my hat off to all Americans for working together, side by side, with our differences in ideals, faiths, colors, and creeds. You make service here and abroad worthwile and keep America strong for when we come home. I thank you.

by TXChiefan on Nov 11, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You Know

I haven’t been a fan of any President we’ve had since Reagan…nor any politician for that matter. But I always remembered that the oath I swore was to the Constitution first and foremost (the best political document ever written in my opinion) and it got me through my dislike of every Commander-in-Chief I had to serve under. :)

That’s the one thing that a lot of people misunderstand about military service…the oath’s not to a particular leader, or political viewpoint, it’s to the ideals that our country was founded on, so even if we get someone in charge we dislike we need only to remember that all of them eventually leave and they’re not the ones we serve first. And that always made the job a lot better, even under trying circumstances.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 10:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Dittos!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Nov 12, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe they're just young players used to a shorter, less physical college game

by AngryJesus on Nov 11, 2008 11:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ya think?

we often forget that those rookies that played in the preseason are used to being at home watching TV after 12 games.

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 12, 2008 7:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That Might Be A Valid Argument For Rookies

But not the vets who’ve been going down too.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 12, 2008 7:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And

It’s also the responsibility of the coaching staff to insure the players are physically prepared for the difference between college and the NFL. That’s why they have strength and conditioning coaches and practices.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 12, 2008 7:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs