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via 2theadvocate.com

  • Brian Waters isn't down with moral victories.
  • Arrowhead Addict has more on Larry Johnson's accuser (including a NSFW pic).
  • LJ's lawyer: “I have felt all along that this case was being driven by financial motives."
  • The Mothership has a nice preview of the Saints including evidence of our absolute dominance of the NFC in the mid to late 90s. 
  • Check out Canal Street Chronicles for all Saints news this week.  Saintsational has a lot of new content every day.
  • If you haven't already heard enough about 2 point conversions then Bob Gretz has a history lesson for you.
  • Ty Law on signing with the Jets: “This is going to be different playing Thursday night against the Patriots, matching up against my former team and the players I’m used to practicing against."  Actually, not a single receiver from the Patriots in 2004 is on the team anymore.
  • Adam Schefter of the NFL Network has a little more about the Chargers game.

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Waters Is Right

This isn’t college football…there’s no such thing as a good loss.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 8:04 AM CST reply actions  

Wow Waters

Careful, you’ll sound like a hater for being a realist. A loss is a loss…now who said that?

Just keep matriculating the ball down the field boys.

by THE_TRUTH on Nov 11, 2008 8:06 AM CST reply actions  

I think he has to say
No player can say a loss is really a victory. They're just not wired that way. Plus, we'd jump all over them if they said they liked moral victories.

by Chris Thorman on Nov 11, 2008 8:08 AM CST reply actions  

Or maybe he truly believes that losses are losses in the end

…and the moral victories can’t be added up like spare change to get you into the playoffs.

Just keep matriculating the ball down the field boys.

by THE_TRUTH on Nov 11, 2008 8:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Playoffs???

Deary me, backing into the playoffs this year based on a bit of luck and the rest of the AFC being piss poor would be the absolutely worst thing ever for this team.

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Nov 11, 2008 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

You misunderstood

My point it that moral victories don’t add up to anything substantial and cannot get you in the playoffs and are a cheap excuse….and I think Waters feels the same way. Only win’s can get you in the playoffs and that isn’t happenning.

Just keep matriculating the ball down the field boys.

by THE_TRUTH on Nov 11, 2008 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Chiefs Versus NFC

That dominance ended a long time ago. We’ve got a winning record versus the AFC West (the worst division in football) for the last decade…against everyone else we’re well under .500. You’ll note that the Chiefs cut off that chart of their victories at 2001. Think that means we haven’t played any NFC games at Arrowhead for seven years, or do you think it means the Chiefs are cherry-picking their stats?

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 8:09 AM CST reply actions  

The Chiefs cherry picking stats?

No way!

All kidding aside, it’s quite humorous just how blatantly positive KCChiefs.com is after a game. I’m not bashing them. I find it to be pretty funny. They know exactly what they’re doing.

by Chris Thorman on Nov 11, 2008 8:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Never Mind, I Retract That

Looked it up and the Chiefs have done pretty well since 2001 against NFC opponents at Arrowhead. It’s a valid stat.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL...it's so true

I thought it was only me thinking that. I rarely go up there anymore. The information is like a bland soup that’s supposedly served at a fine restaurant.

Well… I do check out the cheerleaders every year and they usually are the first to post the schedule.

Just keep matriculating the ball down the field boys.

by THE_TRUTH on Nov 11, 2008 8:15 AM CST reply actions  

above post @Chris

Just keep matriculating the ball down the field boys.

by THE_TRUTH on Nov 11, 2008 8:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I like a lot of the articles

It’s just not the best place to find objective information.

by Chris Thorman on Nov 11, 2008 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

By The Way, NSFW...

…is generally reserved for photographs that show genitalia, nipples, or occasionally the buttocks being exposed. That’s just a chick in a bikini (and not even a particularly revealing one)…which you’ll see in any number of advertisements in print, internet advertising (the non spam kind) or on television viewable during hours deemed safe for children. Nothing unsafe for work about it…at least no more unsafe than going to a Chiefs fan site in general during work hours.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 8:39 AM CST reply actions  

Some workplaces have pretty strict policies and it can be worth it to play safe for the sake of someone’s job. I work from home so don’t care, but it’s fairer to give people the choice.

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Nov 11, 2008 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Only Way That Would Be NSFW

Is if you’re in a mixed-gender workplace and you decided to print it off and stick it on your office wall as a pinup despite the reservations of your co-workers. :)

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

True

Though I have to say I’m having trouble getting AA to load right now.

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Nov 11, 2008 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

That Seems To Be Issues With Their Site In General

When that one guy wrote a FanPost about AA a couple of days ago, I contacted Adam Best and he wrote back and said that they’d had quite a few technical issues that they were in the process of correcting them. Sometimes it can take a little while to iron out all the bugs…doubt it’s because of the picture. :)

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

AA

Thanks for the link, Prime.

As for AA, all the tech issues have been ironed out, Try refreshing or clearing your browser’s cookies if you are still having issues. It was also only IE that we were having issues with. Mozilla, Safari, Chrome, etc… users should have been fine. Hope that helps and sorry for the inconvenience, fellas.

by arrowheadaddict on Nov 11, 2008 12:45 PM CST reply actions  

I Had An Issue For About A Day After You Wrote Back, Actually

But it seems to have been resolved and no problems accessing your site’s content now.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

So it's just me then

Using Firefox 3.0 and it doesn’t load for me. Can’t find any Arrowheadaddict cookies either.

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Nov 11, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

just replying to myself

I can ping and tracert it ok, just won’t load.

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Nov 11, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Re: Ty Law

The Jets released a 24 year old 2nd rounder CB named Justin Miller to make room for Law. Evidently he had blazing speed but was injured all of last season and only appeared in one game this season. Anyone ever heard of him or are familiar with his play? Is he a FA we should be looking at or have his injuries goten the best of him?

by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 11, 2008 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

Miller...

wasn’t he a bad-A kick returner for them as well?? I seem to remember him being a valuable play in one of my fantasy leagues that used IDP’s for that very reason.

ok, just looked it up – here were his KR stats in 05-06
PR – 46 yds – 1,304 avg – 28.3 long – 103T TD – 2
PR – 60 yds – 1,577 avg – 26.3 long – 95T TD – 1

It looks like he played a mix at CB and likely a lot of special teams. He had 12 starts out of 35 games. No INT’s, 97 tckls and 8 passes def’d.

You’re right though, he’s been dinged for the last two seasons.

by Ochophosphate on Nov 11, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I Don't Think We Need Him

Considering his fragility and (I’ll say it now) the relatively promising debut of Kevin Robinson. Two weeks ago I would have said he’s worth considering…but I liked what Robinson showed last week and I think he’s got some potential (assuming he can improve a bit and stay healthy).

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

By "Last Week"

I mean last Sunday, even though that’s actually part of this week. I have a tendency to treat the week as though it starts on Monday.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

You & I both

I’m glad to hear some Robinson recoginition because I thought he looked promising too. Surely not speed like Savage, but I think his experience at kick returning him gives him the edge and he appeared to have better field awareness than Savage. I wasn’t thinking about bringing in Miller for kick return duties but rather as a CB

by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 11, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

If We Keep Losing Players

Might as well bring him in…he’s certainly not worse than most of the other options available on waivers.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

And

I thought Robinson looked a little faster than Savage doing the kick returns…or at least a bit more fluid and comfortable with it. Time will tell, of course, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Robinson handle return duties on his own for the next few weeks (assuming he stays healthy). Savage looks like he’ll be getting reps with the running backs from here on out, so I’m curious what he can do on that front.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont know about faster

but comfortable is right and that comes with the experience I think. Robinson seems like a natural kick returner who’s trying to squeeze out every extra yard he could whereas to me Savage just looked like a fill in. I hope Robinson keeps the job for the rest of the year and that they keep Savage in the backfield

by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 11, 2008 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2008 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Very impressed with K-Rob in his one week of duty.

by rockchalk on Nov 11, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

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