Last weekend, referee Ed Hochuli whistled Carolina defensive end Julius Peppers for roughing the passer. Apparently the call was spot on, at least by the league’s standards.
The NFL fined Peppers $10,000 for roughing the passer — specifically making helmet-to-helmet contact with Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan on the controversial play.
Adam Schefter of the NFL Network
Uh-oh. Imagine what he'll do against Huard!
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Tyler Thigpen "Come on down"
If…….. sorry, WHEN they get to Huard we could be in trouble – there’s no question he’s a little fragile. Help us ‘OB’ line Kenobi – you’re our only hope !!
If we see Bones again
I’ll go ballistic…
I don’t know what I can’t stand more: Sarah Palin or watching the Chiefs play his sorry ass
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions
Sarah Palin's Hot
Even if she does expose how woefully inadequate she is as a VP candidate once reporters can goad her into answering basic economic or foreign policy questions off-the-cuff. McCain is so screwed.
For who would drive me more ballistic, I vote Thigpen…mainly because I’m still paying attention to what goes on with the Chiefs’ season while I zoned out most of the presidential race a month or two ago. :)
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That's My Dude
Barr’s got my vote. Just wish that he got a little more play outside of Libertarian Party circles. Kind of tough for people to take you seriously as a candidate when you’re not even invited to participate in the debates.
Ah well…that just lets me enjoy one of the perks of being a libertarian. Being able to mock people who vote for Obama or McCain because they think there’s actually a meaningful difference between them :)
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Finally!
I dream of a US with real civil liberties. But never thought I would run into fellow Libertarians on a sports blog. I came here to boast about my Panthers, but if there is Libertarians in KC then I just might have to become a Chiefs fan.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
I don't trust Barr more than the next guy
and just like your signature says choosing between lesser evils is still chosing evil. But at least Barr speaks about and appears to understand the genuine issues that are afflicting this nation. Contrary to the doublespeak, rhetoric and soundbytes we’re forcefed by the “chosen one’s”. What’s any of this matter anyway, DIEBOLD’s taken care of us
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Vote Barr!
Anyone with an analytical mind can clearly see that the Republican and Democrat parties have become highly corrupt. What is sickening is that they accuse each other of this corruption to win an election, yet turn a blind eye to their own hypocrisy. Libertarians are the real party of the people. Barr will not win, so it doesn’t matter what kind of president he would be. But voting for him now, means more strength for the party, so that in 4 or 8 years they might have a shot at the debates or even the elections. Voting Barr 08 is a vote for our future!
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
Primetime
I’m really sorry about kicking off a political discussion…I know how you and Chris try to avoid that :)
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Eh
I can tell by the site stats there isn’t nearly as many people on at 9:30 on a Friday night.
They probably feel sorry for us :)
I got an 18 month old
He goes to bed at 8pm. What better to I have to do at 9:30 than talk about football and politics.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
Football vs. Politics
UCrawford touched on this at some earlier point and I agree with him: With football, you can see your team getting better. There’s hope.
Whereas With Politics
It’s just a matter of time before any politician turns into a huge, money-grubbing hack who decides he knows how to run your life better than you do.
I’d run for office if I didn’t think I’d become one of them :)
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True :)
I had to buy some furniture for the house last month and I’m being cheap with the social life so I can pay it off. Plus, I live in Wichita and none of the bars I like are within walking distance from where I live (and there’s jack shit for taxis).
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In KC
Live right on the plaza. No excuse.
I am taking a class on National Security and reading the transcripts of the Pres and VP debates to see what I can gather from them. That’s my lame excuse.
Maybe In A Year Or Two I Can Relocate North
I’d like to move back up to Lawrence again. My job’s got an office up there and it’s possible for me and it’s possible to transfer.
If I lived near the Plaza I’d be broke…I’d be out all the time.
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That's what I thought at first
But if my mother taught me anything it’s how to spot a good deal and around here we call that 1/2 price happy hours…
Living near the Plaza or Mass. street
You simply have no excuses ; ^ ) And as young as I am, really I don’t either ; ^ )
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the great thing of the "new" SBNation
Auto-refreshing comments….do you know of any other sites that have it?
I Do Like The Auto-Refresh Comments
It threw me a little bit at first, but once you get used to them it’s so much easier to make comments without losing your points.
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Definitely
Especially on like a Monday morning when DJ throws up a post that you know will be stirring the pot and have to respond to 20 different comments.
I Used To Live On Mass Street
Hanover Place apartments…god, it was nice being able to walk home after a night out. I used to be able to do that when I lived in England too. Really nice being able to not have to worry about cutting yourself off so you can drive home or trying to rope someone into being a designated driver.
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You lived in England?
Small world….I read a very thought provoking speech on “socialized” health care in another forum…
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I Wrote One About My Time There, Actually
For another blog. NHS was the worst health care system ever. It’s why I could never consider voting for Obama. Any politician who brings up socialized medicine as a good thing is automatically dead to me.
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I was referring to yours, I believe
In fact, a couple days ago I dug through Google to find it because something you said made me think it was you. After I found it, the user name gave it away.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Meant to add
Very well done…I definitely learned something.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Was The Title
“You Like Europe’s Health Care So Much? Then Go Live There”
Or something along those lines? That was definitely mine. I also used to write on my own blog “Dangerously Idealistic”. Kind of tapered off though as my job got real busy. I probably need to write something for The Liberty Papers again so they don’t think I forgot about them. I just haven’t had the time or (honestly) the inclination (since I kind of burned out on politics for a bit).
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Yep
That was it.
I’ve read a few on your DI blog. If you ever get back into it, enable the unique page posts so each post has its specific page. You make some good arguments and they’re difficult to pinpoint without that.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll Take A Look At It
I probably won’t get back into political blogging until after the inauguration at the earliest. Right now I’m happy sticking with sports. And it depresses me a lot less than politics does.
Glad you enjoyed the pieces, though.
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VP Debates
I watched the recaps. But I’ve seen Palin’s other interviews and she’s horrible. Personally I thought Biden really cut her a break (probably because he knew she’d play the victim card immediately if he grilled her like she deserved). When Palin’s answering questions on her basic talking points, she can sound lucid, but hit her with the follow-up questions that require some independent thought and she folds like a lawn chair…just spouts gibberish that makes her sound like a fool.
Whatever happened to the GOP being the party of ideas? Seriously. We used to be the party of economic freedom and prosperity. Now I have doubts as to whether the Republican leadership can even spell economics without using at least one K.
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It was designed perfectly for her
90 second responses – just enough to hit the talking points and scratch the surface. Really no follow up questions.
Biden didn’t go into attack dog mode, even though you really tell he wanted to. Palin didn’t screw up and if the GOP considers that a success, then fine by me :)
The Bar Just Gets Lower For Politicians It Seems
Or maybe I’m just getting too fucking old.
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They're Getting Real Familiar With Economics Now, Though
I checked the House website to see how my representatives and senators voted on the bailout and they had a notice up that high demand and e-mail volume from constituents had been causing service lags. Apparently a lot of people were calling up about the bailout…from what Mike Pence said 85-90% of them against it.
Wonder what the fallout from that is going to be?
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Doubtful
One great thing about living in the Midwest…we love the 2nd Amendment here. In fact, I was pondering just the other day if perhaps I might not enjoy finding a gun club to join. I do miss blowing things up and playing with weaponry since leaving the military. :)
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Tell that to the residents of Greensburg
The few lucky enough one’s to return to a home, only to find their confiscated
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The republic just gets more stupid
is all, so no need to keep the bar high
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Attack Dog Mode
Palin doesn’t know how to debate at this level. She held her own, but was obviously a fish out of water. But I can;t help to wonder if that is a good thing. Out of the 4, she is the only one with real potential to bring something new to Washington… that is if she isn’t corrupted in the process.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
Not so much as cutting breaks
as much as cutting favors. No different than last presidential debates w/ Gore & Bush. Anyone with half a memory or a brain could have whiped up the floor with Bush and his record. It’s one big facade
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Whatever happened to the GOP being the party of ideas?
The media happened! Palin doesn’t have a chance to get her message across due to biased media cramming Obama rhetoric down her throat.
Honestly, Palin is a clueless Washington outsider. Obama, McCain and Biden are the same ole’ crap. But the media has brain-washed us that Palin is a moron, and Obama is a rock star. And that is who we will vote for.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
I Hate 'Em Both
Palin, McCain, Biden, Obama…they’re all hacks to me. Obama’s overall issues are a little less repugnant to me than McCain’s, but he’s for socialized medicine so there’s no way I’ll cast a ballot for him. And I’ve about had it with McCain’s “I know what it takes to win a war because I’ve been there” (we lost Vietnam after all, and getting shot down and stuck in a prison camp doesn’t give you any actual expertise in winning a war…it just means that you’ve got experience in being shot down and stuck in a prison camp).
I really wish Barr could win. He’s the only candidate who doesn’t give me an overwhelming urge to punch him in the face.
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Right
I believe in small government. But I feel I either have to vote for the BIG government party who is honest about being big, or the BIG government party who claims they are small.
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I Guess The Answer Is
Don’t vote.
To paraphrase “War Games”, it seems that the only way to win is not to play. :)
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Obama is a false revolution
The establishment knows average Americans are fed up and hungry for change. So they throw us a young, well-spoken African American who symbolizes change from the status quo. This is ‘their’ answer to ‘our’ problem. It’s really a matter of stuffing the race with all of yours horses and in the end it doesn’t matter who wins because they’re all bought and paid for anyway
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I Think Bill Hicks Said It Best
When he noted that voting for either party was merely voting for the puppet on the left or the puppet on the right without realizing that there wasn’t any meaningful difference between them.
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Back on track
I believe the answer is to vote for the party of the future… vote Libertarian in 08!
But seriously… You are coming to Steve Smith’s house this week. If you don’t double or triple him, he is going to torch you! But let me show you what happens when you do try to stop him…
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b50c0f
So now what?
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We have a pretty good secondary
Or potentially good, rather, so this is going to be a great barometer for us.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I Hope We Shut Him Down
Primarily because I need the guy who owns him in my fantasy league to lose this week.
Oh, and because I want the Chiefs to win. :)
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Fantasy Football
Greatest advertising tool in the history of any company.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Keeps Me Following Football
Because if I had to rely on the Chiefs to keep my interest going, I’d have tuned out a couple of weeks ago :)
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Also Madden
That’s done almost as much :)
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Free Agency begins directly after end of season
correct? If so, wouldn’t it be gnarly if we signed Losman before the draft. If we did have a QB in place w/ a solid arm before the draft, I’d be more than content with drafting Crabtree 1st round. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a duo of our own in KC like they have again in Carolina? Only ours would be much younger with much higher ceiling of potentail
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
It's A Couple Of Weeks After The Super Bowl
At least I think so.
Crabtree’s a good prospect, but I’d rather the BPA was a lineman (offensive or defensive). When you’re picking as high as we’re going to pick I buy into the Bill Parcells idea that you need to build your infrastructure first, and in the NFL that should be your line.
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DE
Is really the only pick I think we can justify that high.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's have this out
I see you keep pulling for Johnson from GT. But like I keep saying, what do you suggest we do with Tamba or Turk? What it boils down to is I’m not ready to give up on Tamba……I say we go ILB in Top 5
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Reserving Judgment
And Tamba hasn’t proven he is capable of being a #1 DE yet.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we should switch back to LE
at some point in the season
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
He’s shown he is serviceable on that side with a superstar on the other side.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
If His Play Merits It
I’d be fine with Oher with a top pick. Oher and Albert as bookmark tackles would be great for us. I realize that’s a bit high to draft a RT normally, but then if he’s really great RT it’s not too high at all.
But Johnson works too. So does Maualuga if he’s healthy. I think he could be another Junior Seau.
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Reluctanly Agree
Oher is a freak athlete…one of those didn’t play until high school guys. I could see him making the transition.
I told you this before but “The Blind Side” by Michael Smith.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Draft speculation
is going to be awesome all the way up to the draft! You could rightly argue for so many players!
That time of year is the best
You’ll love it, Q. Not sure if you were around last April but Arrowhead Pride had their own community mock draft where everyone took a different team and had our own mock draft.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
And its execution
Was unprecedented in the blogosphere. I know other SBNation guys emailed Chris and asked how he did it.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Only Picks You Got Right In The First Round
Were Keith Rivers, Leodis McKelvin, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, and Felix Jones. :)
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By Execution
I meant everyone getting their picks in on time. With few exceptions, we got 3 picks a day.
Considering the 30+ people involved that’s impressive.
And Felix Jones was yours truly :)
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny Thing
On Madden 08, when I was playing franchise mode, after the first season the Cincinnati Bengals drafted Keith Rivers there too. Some kind of cosmic force has fated Keith Rivers to play for the Bengals on all planes of his existence. :)
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Bust can be used a couple different ways
e.g. Odell Thurman and David Pollack
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Of Course
On Madden 09 I traded for Rivers to spare him that fate…he’s now the Chiefs’ leading tackler (although extremely deficient on the pass-rush oddly enough).
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I try to keep it realistic
Unless of course you are 4 years deep and he was a bust with Cincy.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I Traded Them Donnie Edwards And A Second Rounder
Yes, it was one of those ludicrous Madden trades, but if ever there was a team dumb enough to take it in real life…
:)
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And What It's All About
It having something to get excited about during the off-season.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you ever think
You might have a homework assignment for a sports blog?
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
For the Mock Draft. Pick your team. Research the pick.
All in jest :)
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't have to convince me w/ Oher
I am one of few calling we draft a RT that high, with him being in mind. But if not him even other tackles as this class is loaded. How do scouts know which prospects are capable of making the transition to the right or are they all interchangable?
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Really
I just hate the notion of having to “redraft”. I know you always go with best available, I just don’t like drafting players from the same position to replace someone you just drafted years ago. Feels like a waste is all…
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
If Oher Got Drafted
I think he’ll end up on the right as long as Albert’s healthy and continuing to develop at the pace he is on the left. So it wouldn’t be a wasted pick to grab him.
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I was referring to DE
in regards to Tamba & “redrafting”. I know Oher would be our RT. Man that’d be sweet
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I think its official
I’m going pull for Oher in 09’. I want nothing more for KC to have one of the most up-and-coming if the not the best O-Line’s in the game. Just like the days of Roaf & Shields only longer
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
If Oher is there
when we draft, he would definitely be BPA. Johnson on the defense side if we want to go that route.
Although
I see the Rams ahead of us who would most definitely take Oher.
Eugene Monroe from VA is another possibility.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Alex Boone?
Will drop on the board I think….talk is like he can play RT
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
The Rams Need Oher More
Orlando Pace is not recovering well from his injuries. Apparently his shoulder is having issues now. Think he’s about done. And Barron demonstrated last year that he’s no left tackle.
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Barron
I thought he was projected to play RT in STL?
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Or
Was that just because Pace was still there?
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
He Was Left Tackle Last Year
After Pace went down early. He was drafted with the idea of grooming him to be Pace’s eventual replacement, but he’s demonstrated that he’s just not up to it.
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Yeah
I think Rams get 1st pick overall and take Oher. If Huard keeps playing, we may not be able to lock down pick # 2?
But that’s ok with me. Losing sucks!
I'd Rather Win A Few And Pick Sixth
Than lose 15 and pick first. Teams that lose that much often find that it’s not as easy as getting high draft picks to dig out of that hole.
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Agreed
And in this draft in particular the talent drop off isn’t much.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
2 vs. 5
Isn’t much difference IMO.
Save a bit of money and lessen the risk while still getting a player we need like MLB.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm Out
Going to play a game of NCAA Football then crash. Have a good one guys.
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Word
It’s about the time the girls are leaving the bars….
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
We blew this thread up tonight
Take it easy y’all. Read you definitely on Sunday!
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
If there were a QB
A can’t miss QB then I’d be down for that because he could set us up for the next decade but I don’t see that type of player in this draft.
Watch…right after I say that this will be the next ’83 draft.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
We DO need a QB!
Maybe enough to go, dare I say it, 1st round. I think the only thing that might change that is Croyle explodes and starts winning some games.
Nobody is 1st round material
And realistically I don’t think a 1st rounder could be more prepared to start games than a second or even third rounder out of this class. We ideally don’t want any drafted QB to be ready until their 3rd year and we can’t justify spending that kinda of money on someone holding a clipboard. We do need a QB, and will get one, but I’d be just as happy if not more w/ grabbing Harrell in the 3rd round than I would say Stafford or Tebow (God no) 1st round
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Our QB question
will be answered next year by a FA, not a rookie. But strangers thing have happened ; ^ )
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I Don't Think There's Any That Are That Good
I like Cullen Harper and Graham Harrell, but not that early.
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Agreed
And QB is one of those positions you don’t skimp on.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I Think So
We’re still quite aways from being able to project the draft. December’s a better timeframe.
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Crabtree would be a luxury
But I’d still take him :)
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Pipedream
Our situation is obviously a lot more dire at the LB position than the #2 WR, I realize this. But a fella can dream
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll reserve judgment
On the available linebackers until more concrete information regarding Maulauga’s knee comes out.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I lived in Eureka, CA
when he was playing there prep football. He was teammates w/ Purify and I’d watch them both, so to let you know my opinion is biased on him over Laurinitas
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
And besides
they could go Oher or Johnson in the 1st round, and then get a quality 1st round talent at linebacker in the second round. Freeman from Ohio St. might still be there. There are probably 7 or 8 quality linebackers in the draft next year. Don’t get me wrong, I like Maulauga a lot, Reminds me of Seau. But I think the Chiefs would go ater a quicker Jonathan Vilma type guy.
Just As Long As They Get Somebody Who Can Play
I could care less if he’s a “name” guy :)
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Of Course
What will actually happen is the Chiefs will decide that we need to build more depth at corner back so we won’t draft our first offensive lineman until the 5th round and we’ll get a DE with our Mr. Irrelevant pick.
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We won't draft CB
I’ve seen mock drafts already w/ Malcom Jenkins being projected as our 1st rounder and I just laugh to myself. I’d be very, very dissapointed if they chose a CB on the 1st day even though we already have Flowers/Carr & Page/Pollard
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
No sarcasm at all
I truly believe our defensive secondary is going to be force in a few years
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
Q was responding to UC’s comment.
But I agree with you….and I don’t even think it will take a few years.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I totally agree
I meant UC saying we would draft corners first. Herm is trying to build the perfect Cornerback Army!
Nothing is more important to me
than offensive line dominance so I would love Oher 1st round. The proceeding rounds I’m guessing will be toss up on LB & QB depending who’s on the board
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
And
I couldn’t resist with the Bob Barr comment. Even by commenting solely on sports you can learn quite a bit about people. I am guilty – I knew that would get a response out of you :)
Talk about torture
Tyler Thigpen & Sarah Palin film
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyler Thigpen & Sarah Palin Porn Film
Unfortunately for Sarah, I don’t think she’s skinny enough for Tyler. :)
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Yes
He doesn’t like any meat on the bone
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh man
I didn’t put two and two together when UC said she’s not skinny enough.
Now I get it.
[Primetime <—- been up too long]
Out Of Curiousity
I know quite a few of you guys are MU fans. Any of you going to the KU-MU game at Arrowhead this year?
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Trying to
Tickets are impossible. I got tickets to the MU/KU game last year….wow is all I can say. 2 vs. 3
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
However
I am also going to Austin for the MU/UT game in a couple weeks.
If all works out, that could be another 2 vs. 3 game (making a BIG assumption that UT beats OU the week before, though).
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I Got Mine Before The Season
Went to last year’s too. Didn’t know if anyone was going to be around there so we could meet up and maybe grab a few beers. Unless that would cause problems, of course…and judging from the hate in the air last year I could see how it might :)
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It wouldn't cause problems
In fact, I’ve even got a nice shiny gold shirt I’ve been meaning to give you…
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll Trade You
For a “2008 National Champions” t-shirt I’ve been saving for a special occasion :)
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Trumped
Damn….thought you might have forgotten about that :)
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Never :)
When Mario Chalmers hit that shot that was the closest I’ve ever come in my life to pure bliss. I was screaming so loud that I literally almost blacked out from lack of oxygen. Lawrence was really insane that night.
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Wished I could have been there!
I was screaming all the same
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
It Was Great
The streets were packed afterwards. The really cool thing was, nobody was out of control, nobody was busting stuff up…everybody was just happy and drunk and having a good time.
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The party alone
would have been worth returning
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Nobody was busting stuff up?
Well, yeah, you weren’t in West Virginia so I imagine the couches were safe :)
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
There Were A Few People Climbing On Stuff They Shouldn't Have
But the Lawrence PD took a very measured and restrained approach to it and there weren’t any blowups. I was exceptionally drunk and the time and I noticed how well the cops were handling crowd control…always nice when they realize that you don’t have to be a bunch of hardasses to get results. :)
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Went Up There For The Game
Instead of going to the actual game with my dad (although we would have had to have bought Final Four tickets before the tournament and I couldn’t afford to do that just on the chance that KU made it). So I got drunk in Lawrence with some old college buddies while watching the game, after which we went to the titty bar.
My dad went to San Antonio, where my brother-in-law’s dad got him upgraded to a spot in the NBA suite and he and my brother-in-law got to sit and watch the game with Pat Riley, Adrian Dantley, Patrick Ewing, and Hakeem Olajuwon (my all-time favorite player) and he didn’t even get me a picture or an autograph.
For like a month I kept reminding my dad what a shitty old man he was. :)
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That's unreal
Just unbelievable.
My cousin and her boyfriend actually made the trek down to San Antonio on a whim after her father got them tickets about 4 rows back. I talk to a KC Star reporter now and again and Gmail chatted with him while he was sitting on the floor.
I’m jealous (even if it is KU!).
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
And Hakeem
I could talk about him for hours.
We’ll have to meet up at Matt’s NBA blog sometime.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That Guy Had Moves
Not quite as good as Kevin McHale-type low post moves, but close, and his athleticism was so much better than McHale’s that Hakeem didn’t need them. In my first NBA fantasy league he was my first choice (I bid a third of my team’s budget for him) and that was the year he won his first NBA title and the league MVP award (and my league). That dude was amazing…Jordan was the best player ever IMO but Hakeem could do it all too.
Regarding the NBA skybox story, my brother-in-law spent most of the game talking to Dantley and got into an argument with him about how the Hawks would make a run and pull the game out because Memphis would screw up the free throws. Dantley wasn’t buying it, but my brother-in-law called it correctly. After the game, he said Dantley turned to him and told him “Man, you were right…you really know your basketball.” My brother-in-law said that was one of the greatest moments of his life :)
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I still think
declaring for this years draft was a mistake by Chalmers & Arthur. Sure, they’ll both still make it (I hope) and it they’re already getting paid……..but think how high their stock would have gone up in one year provided they returned.
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Stock will never be higher
At least for Chalmers. It was a good move for him.
As for Arthur, he was completely and utterly screwed by pre draft rumors that he had some sort of injury or sickness. Total BS.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Scotty Thurman Syndrome
He could very well have ended up like Scotty Thurman, that point guard at Arkansas who hit the game-winning three to win the championship his junior year, decided to return for his senior year, then never got drafted. If he’d come out his junior year he was being talked about as a first-rounder.
But I think Chalmers would have improved his stock…he was a good athlete and he has the skills to do well as a point guard. In the system that KU had going last year, they were splitting PG duties between three guys so he wasn’t asked to be the primary.
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Wow
Haven’t heard that name since. What a blast from the past..
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Arkansas Was A Team I Used To Root For
Had four teams I used to support back in the day, in this order…KU (for obvious reasons), Indiana (because that’s where my dad went to school and my brother and I grew up hearing about Bob Knight all the time), North Carolina (because of Dean Smith, and now that Roy pulled his classy “Jayhawk on the lapel” move I’m rooting for them again), and Arkansas (my grandma used to live near Fayetteville and she was a big fan so I kind of got into watching them and liked their style under Nolan Richardson).
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I Think Chalmers Screwed Up
But I don’t think Arthur did. I think that story about his old high school pretty much closed the door on him returning, whether he wanted to or not. It wasn’t his fault what his high school did, but that would have been a distraction all year.
Chalmers should have stayed in, though. But he landed in the best possible situation with Miami (as long as he keeps his nose clean). He fits as the kind of point guard Riley likes. And although Shaun Livingston just signed a contract I don’t think that kid can stay healthy enough to be relied on (assuming he’s fully recovered from that leg injury).
The one thing I couldn’t believe was that the Celtics took J.R. Giddens instead of Chalmers with the last pick. Giddens is a trainwreck and an overrated player.
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Same could be argued w/ Arthur
in that he couldn’t have landed on possibly better squad. In Memphis he will actually have an early opportunity for playing time
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 3, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Arthur
I’m not sure what he’s going to do in the pros. He’s a talented low post scorer and he’s got some shot blocking ability (great timing) but that guy doesn’t seem to have much of a nose for rebounds at all.
He would have been drafted a lot higher I think, but he had a real idiot for an agent who screwed up the handling of some b.s. medical rumor about Arthur and his stock plummeted on draft day. I get the idea that Arthur’s going to be one of those with financial problems after his career’s over…I don’t think he surrounds himself with the best people.
Chalmers will probably be fine, he comes from a solid family and decent upbringing. He needs to stop hanging around with bad influences like Michael Beasley, though :)
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That's just unbelievable
I can’t even imagine.
If memory serves me correctly, didn’t Dantley bounce around the league for a while even though he led the league in scoring?
by Joel Thorman on Oct 3, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Best ever
How soon we forget. I believe a man by the name of Chamberlin still owns numerous NBA records. He would destroy MJ even one on one thats how good he was guys.
IMHO.
I Love Wilt
Being a KU fan and all…and I definitely agree that he was one of the top three players of all time (I think it’s Jordan, Kareem and Wilt, in that order). I’d still have to put him below Jordan, because I think Jordan’s accomplishments were more impressive because he wasn’t a center and because of the disparity in championships between them but then part of the handicaps that Wilt (and Kareem to a lesser degree) faced were that they were so good the rule book was re-written to make the game harder for them. Wilt might very well have won titles in both his years at KU and more in the pros had they not changed the rules on free throws that forbade dunking them from the free-thow line. :)
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I love Magic
Could play all 5 positions on the court, won a championship as a rookie, made everyone on his team better, and would have won more if his career wasn’t cut short.
I Think He Was Getting Close To The End
He’d been in the league for 12 years by the time he retired, and honestly I thought he looked pretty slow out there during the last championship series against the Bulls. He had a lot of mileage on him by that point. And I don’t know that he would have won another championship before the end…the Lakers kind of fell apart with problems with coaches and the front office and even Magic said that losing Kareem was what put an end to the winning (and they didn’t find a replacement until they got Shaq…which happened after Magic would likely have been finished playing anyway).
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Yeah, I think I'm letting my Laker Homerism
get in the way of looking at it objectively. But at the time, it sure felt as if we could have.
But He Was Great
I’d rank him just a bit lower than the top three. Probably fourth, Larry Legend fifth (which I hate to do because I’m a Celtics fan), and Hakeem sixth.
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I think Larry
was the best ever of sticking it to ya. He could score anywhere he wanted to. Also hard to believe that McHale was ever the 6th man on the Celtics! Best low posts moves ever with those crazy long arms.
I do also really like Hakeem. Incredible feet. Dude could have been the best tight end to ever play the game!
Wilt was a little before my time so it’s hard to compare him. I grew up watching Lakers/Celtics. It was hard to see the Celts beat us in the finals this year even though they totally deserved it! Man, you have had quite a year if you are a KU fan and a Celtic fan! Now if we could just get the Chiefs to win a championship…
McHale As Sixth Man
Was actually as a result of Len Bias dying. The year that he died after getting drafted, the Celtics didn’t have that much depth so they had to run McHale and Bird for major minutes (they’d planned their roster on Bias spelling them) and both got hurt as a result. McHale messed up his foot, the injury lingered for the rest of his career, and they had to cut back his playing time so he went from starter at PF to sixth man. He was still a good player, I remember his last year in the league (also Reggie Lewis’ last year) when they played Charlotte and McHale went off for 30+. The guy went out on a high note. Too bad he had to botch the legacy by becoming the NBA’s answer to Matt Millen. :)
Man, you have had quite a year if you are a KU fan and a Celtic fan!
Being a fan of the Royals and Chiefs as well helps keep me grounded :)
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