Daunte Culpepper to Visit Chiefs on Tuesday
by Chris Thorman on Oct 26, 2008 7:24 PM CDT
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I don't have much news to report on this other than to say that Jay Glazer of FOX Sports said that Daunte Culpepper will visit the Kansas City Chiefs on Tuesday, presumably for a workout/tryout due to the demise of 2/3rds of the Chiefs starting quarterback rotation.
Here is a snippet from the Sporting News Blog mentioning the only NFL player I can name that acts as his own agent:
Jay Glazer reported on Fox's pregame show this morning that Daunte Culpepper, retired for less than two months, will be working out for Kansas City this Tuesday. As someone who watched Culpepper struggle to make an impact in Silver and Black last fall, but also someone who has watched part of four KC games this season, can't we work out a deal to get Daunte to New York for this afternoon's Chiefs-Jets game?
Tyler Thigpen played the game of his life today against the New York Jets and I'm supportive of him playing out the rest of season as the starter. Rumor is that Culpepper wasn't interested in the Chiefs earlier this season because we wouldn't give him the chance to be the full-time starter, only to fill in while Brodie Croyle recuperated.
I'm guessing Daunte Culpepper will only become a Chief after Tuesday if KC's brass says he can at least compete for the full-time starting spot. I personally don't see the Chiefs steering away from Tyler Thigpen, especially because Bones is the only Chiefs' QB who can run this offense at the moment. The precise reason that backups Ingle Martin and Quinn Gray haven't taken the field (aside from Martin's, you know, actual football ability) is because of their unfamiliarity with the offense.
Despite the sun breaking through the clouds for a brief moment this afternoon in New York, the Kansas City Chiefs' 2008 season is a waste. The addition of Culpepper doesn't do much except (theoretically) stop the bleeding for a brief time and this fan can't see the long-term value in that.
H/T woodman212 in the FanPosts.
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I'll Say This For Signing Culpepper
I like Culpepper’s potential over the next two and a half seasons more than I like Thigpen’s, Martin’s or Gray’s. While Thigpen had a very impressive day today, easily his best in a Chiefs uniform, I’m going to hold off on proclaiming that he’s figured it all out and is worthy of consideration for keeping around next year. He’s been abysmal for most of the time he’s been on the field, so this is definitely a small sample size. But it was an impressive performance…in fact I’d say it was more impressive than any performance that I ever saw from Brodie Croyle and better than most of Huard’s work. Now let’s see him do it next week.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 26, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Draft a QB next year
Play Thigpen the rest of this year.
by Chris Thorman on Oct 26, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
It isn’t like we are dealing with legitimately good QBs here.
Thigpen played the best game a Chiefs’ QB has played since, well, since 2006. Maybe I’m forgetting some early-season-2007 performance from Damon, but I doubt it. For that alone, he deserves the eight games remaining to see if he can or can’t be a QB.
And however he plays, draft a QB in the Draft. But if Thigpen consistently plays like he does today, take someone in the 4th or 5th round. If he plays like Bones did in Hotlanta the rest of the year (which, honestly, is probably just as likely as him playing as well as he did today; he’s started twice and given us two entirely different results…), then take a QB early and, maybe, one late as well.
But to bring in Daunte on a multi-year deal and even consider starting him for a game is the definition of stupidity, and I would lose all faith in this entire organization if we do that.
Not to be irrational or anything…
by rockchalk on Oct 27, 2008 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or even the reamining 9 games.
Besides this one, the Denver game and the one in New England, they’ve all basically blended together anyways…
by rockchalk on Oct 27, 2008 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
No one’s saying to build around Tyler.
I just want the kid to get the credit he deserves.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 27, 2008 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I give him credit for 1 game played and his stats. I also give him credit for being part of 0-1 in his tenure. Next week is another game and aside from the win/loss, it’s a clean slate. Let’s see him improve even if it’s slightly.
I think that’s fair.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 27, 2008 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loss not on Thigpen
I don’t think you can blame Thigpen for this loss, yes the team did lose but I felt that Thigpen did everything he could to lead the team to victory. He was accurate (my biggest question about him) he made good decisions with the throws he made and he looked like a leader out there.
This loss was on the coaches and the Refs.
by tevans96 on Oct 27, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm, no.
I would’ve put the loss on the officiating (several blown Pass Interfence calls, and an Offensive Pass Interference call that shouldn’t have been), and on the Defense giving up the big play.
I thought the coaching this game was actually really good.
by JacinB on Oct 27, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coaching was great...until the last 5 minutes.
And I never said I pinned the loss on Bones. I said he’s “part of” being 0-1. So let’s not start changing what I wrote.
As long as keeps matriculating the ball down the field like he did and continues to increase his QB rating then I’ll admit improvement.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 27, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coaches
I put it on the coaches for going away from the offensive strategy that had worked all day to the one that has not worked all season long. With this offense we can not play run out the clock football, we don’t have the players for that type of game.
by tevans96 on Oct 27, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have any issue ...
I don’t have any issue running the ball on 3rd and 2 to keep the clock moving.
by JacinB on Oct 27, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH MY GOD
I knew you couldn’t do it.
Let’s start with Culpepper. A 31 year old quarterback with a bad history ever since Randy Moss left tries out for several teams but eventually retires due to his severe knee injuries. Then he comes back out realizing how desperate we are and hopes for a miracle two year contract which further restricts our cap space and prevents us from investing in the future. “Potential?” Crawford, what is it with you thinking guys over 30 have potential? By 30, that’s it. They’ve maxed out what they’re going to be. They can be good. But let’s put him in this system. An O-Line that’s a sieve. No notable running game. And you want the guy with a seriously messed up knee who hasn’t played football in four months to take over?
Abysmal. You know who’s been abysmal? Huard. He kept us from having playmaking ability or the ability to throw downfield. He can’t make plays. Period. “Oh, he can complete 50% of his passes!” Congratulations, you can throw a five yard out 6 out of 10 times. It doesn’t help us move the ball.
Furthermore, as opposed to the players you prefer, Tyler Thigpen went out and exceed expectations, and did so showing more moxie and heart than any other QB we’ve seen this year, and he bounced back up from injuries, which is key.
He flat out outplayed any quarterback we’ve seen in the last two years and he deserves his chance.
You just don’t like him and it’s something positive about this team that you can’t shit on, so you have to find a way to say something bad that Peterson’s not doing.
Thigpen earned your respect today.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 26, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for Thigpen succeeding
I have no vendetta against the guy. But I have to agree with UC – no player, no player earns ANYTHING after one good game.
by Chris Thorman on Oct 26, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I said
was he earned respect. And that means keeping the job for another week. If he goes back to what we all expect next week, sure, throw in Gray. But there’s nothing good that comes from signing Culpepper. It’s wasting several million on a fix-it we don’t need right now.
And I said last week, "What if he throws for 250 and 2TDs and only 1 int? and he did better. NO INTs.
Thigpen’s getting the shaft from people that just don’t like him for whatever reason.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 26, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check out my post
I don’t want Culpepper. I think Thigpen should start the rest of the season. As far as the QBOTF, no freakin’ way.
by Chris Thorman on Oct 26, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I totally agree
I’m not saying he should even necessarily be around next year.
But we’re accepting losing, and he’s playing well. Let’s take a chance on the guy. You and I are on the same page.
But this “Well, sure, he played better than any QB i’ve supported over the last three months, but he still sucks” thing is lame. I admitted when Huard had one good game and supportted him. I’m just asking for the same. When Bones goes back to being TEH SUCK, we can yank him. But the kid played his ass off today.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 26, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I Said
If he does it for several more games, I’ll get on the bandwagon. Until then he’s just a guy who had a career day that bore no resemblence to the rest of his pro career. Happens all the time in sports…it’s called a small sample size, and it doesn’t define anything.
And you’ll just have to accept that I’m not going to be optimistic about this team until they put up more than one acceptable performance per month.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 26, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree UC
We’re on the same page.
by Chris Thorman on Oct 26, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to argue against that statement
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Oct 27, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing he did earn ...
One thing he did earn was a helluva lot of praise from Len Dawson. That don’t come easy, and it don’t come cheap. If Lenny thinks the kids got the stuff, I say we let the kid play.
by JacinB on Oct 27, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Run Thigpen out there
and see what you have. You might find you have a decent backup at the least. You still draft a QB next time around and make people compete legitimately for the spot. Culpepper would be a waste of time. I’m not saying he is the answer but Thigpen deserves to start next week.
by stram#1 on Oct 26, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Right on
If this season has shown us anything, it’s that we need a solid backup QB in place.
by Chris Thorman on Oct 26, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thigpen looked...
better today than Brodie ever has. Give the kid a few more starts.
by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 26, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm Fine With That
I think he definitely earned another start.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 26, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems like
I posted this 4 hours earlier…hmmmm haha
I dont think Culpepper is worth it…he is a bad locker room guy…his immobility wont survive behind our line…ever
by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Bad Locker Room Guy"
Most of that reputation came from Brad Childress, Minnesota’s coach, complaining about him…and most of that was because Childress held it against him for asking about his contract, even though Culpepper had to ask about his contract because he didn’t have an agent to do it for him, so Childress got the Vikings to dump him so they could go with a player that Childress didn’t personally dislike (Tarvaris Jackson…who was a terrible QB). That’s one of many reasons I don’t have much respect for Childress as a head coach…his inability to get along with players he needs over petty differences that he shouldn’t be focusing on.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 26, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
That could be true…i will give you that…it is based on nothin but hearsay…good point
by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Culpepper would be a mistake
The guy is, to my mind, an older, slower version of the guy we just signed last week, Gray. If we are about rebuilding for youth, how can we possibly think that Culpepper would be the answer? Stick it out with Thigpen, see what Gray can do, and go into the offseason allowing Carl Peterson’s and Herm Edward’s replacements to find the Chiefs next franchise quarterback. (A guy can dream, right?)
by ryan_andersen98 on Oct 26, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
So if a guy jumps out of a plane and survives after his parachute doesn’t open…does he think “I’ll try it again without a chute”?
Before everyone starts getting their panties in a bunch understand that it’s one game. Thigpen he played well but hasn’t WON a game off his play. I want someone with the killer instinct to finish the other team off. take away any hope of comeback or win.
Culpepper will be a backup and it’s a band-aid until next year.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 26, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Killer Instinct?
Like calling three runs in a row and allowing the greatest come from behind quarterback ever to win against us? Yeah, I want a coach with a killer instinct too. :)
by ryan_andersen98 on Oct 26, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no killer instinct
We haven’t had killer instinct since Montana beat the Steelers with no time on the board in the playoffs. Everyone saw it coming and the Steelers couldn’t do anything about it except get back on a plane.
I want a hard nosed “old time” kick in your teeth coach with a QB that makes corners and LB’s piss their pants.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 26, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cowher?
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That'll work.
I saw Ditka this weekend and I thought he was going to have an anurism he was so pissed on ESPN and he wasn’t even coaching the team.
I’m not saying Ditka, not that I wouldn’t want him in KC in some capacity, but a tough guy over a pansy any day. Kudo’s to Mike Singletary. I hope he kicks butt in SF. Hopefully his coaching is as good as his kick in the teeth attitude.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 27, 2008 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thought is Herm is
Hoping a washed up vet might have a few good games to save his ass. All we have heard the last three years is young, young, young. Shit starts rolling downhill in a hurry, and it is time to find a safety net. Just my two cents.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No thanks
Culpepper doesn’t make any sense for this team, we need young players. He’s old and slow now. Andre Woodson would be a much, much better pickup, even if Culpepper is the better player right now. 2 years from now, Culpepper won’t be able to help us. I’m afraid if they bring him in and he plays decently, they won’t go out and get a QB this offseason, which would be disastrous.
Pigpen should start again next week, with Gray backing him up. Bring in Woodson, unless the team is high on Ingle Martin. Then again, the way this bunch evaluates QBs, they’d probably be wrong, so just bring in Woodson anyway.
by Offense of the 70s on Oct 26, 2008 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Culpepper might be a good idea
I agree that we should keep sending Thigpen out there as long as he’s playing decent ball. Having said that, I think Culpepper is a good idea for the Chiefs organization for the simple fact that he has had success in the past, although that was with Randy Moss. He’s 30 years old now, so maybe we sign him for 2-3 years. I think this allows the Chiefs to draft the best available player with thier first round pick this year. The QB’s that are coming out right now don’t look all that impressive to warrant a top five pick in my opinion. We need a lot of help on both lines, and maybe we could use our second pick to take a QB. That’s just what I think, and would like to hear what everyone else thinks.
by bsills311 on Oct 26, 2008 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But.
I am not sure that Dante is the type of veteran quarterback we want mentoring any draft pick or young quarterback we find in the offseason.
by ryan_andersen98 on Oct 26, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah ...
I think I’ve stated my feelings on Culpepper last week, but I’ll gladly do it again.
He hasn’t had a good season on any team that didn’t also include Randy Moss. His knee’s so trashed he oughta he’d get a handicapped spot in the players parking lot. He doesn’t contribute anything to the team, and likely wouldn’t even bother to give our younger players tips on getting better (see also: JaMarcus Russell). He’s old. He’s washed up. He’s the antithesis of what this team needs.
Don’t waste our time or our money signing him.
by JacinB on Oct 27, 2008 10:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that is a fair question
Do we spend money on what will probably be a 2-3 year contract if we sign him, or do we go with what we have and make the season and see where we are in February?
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Oct 27, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he could benefit us this year, so why bother.
Let’s wait and see what Free Agency has and the draft. You never know.
by TheQ on Oct 27, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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