Nobody Can Find a Silver Lining to Yesterday's Loss by the Chiefs
by Chris Thorman on Oct 20, 2008 12:04 PM CDT
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The fires of discontent burn not only here but all around the Kansas City Chiefs blogosphere. Here's what everyone else is saying about yesterday's blowout loss to the Titans.
"It is time for something to change (for now I’m strickly talking about the defensive side of the ball only) and that may start with Gunther. I really like the fire Gunther can (or used to) bring, but as one caller on the post game show said yesterday, the only thing Gunther seems good at anymore is his ability to use curse words.
Even for the hardcore supportive fans, is it time to ask for people’s heads?"
I'm in no way a "Fire Him!" type of fan after each loss. But I will say that each week seems to convince me a little bit more that a big time coaching staff shake up would help jolt the Chiefs back into a competitive mode. Maybe Gunther Cunningham. Probably Mike Priefer, the special teams coach.
Steven at Arrowhead Addict
Here’s a thought…Imagine what this team will be like the next couple of years if Herm, Bill and CP were wrong? What if they are wrong about what these players will be in 2-3 years? I’m getting a little nervous. Are you? This is getting bad. Real bad. I admit rebuilding is tough and hard for all, but to get embarrassed as the Chiefs have the past two games is something else.
Wow, I don't even want to think about that scenario. Not right now at least. The fact that this is only the beginning or even middle of this losing charade is too much for me to acknowledge right now.
Kent Babb at The Kansas City Star
"We didn’t get shut out again," Thigpen said, "so that was really nice."
He wasn’t being sarcastic when he said that. He was serious, and that’s the kind of thing the Chiefs might have to take pride in as they continue what is shaping up to be the worst season in franchise history.
I predict this will turn out to be the worst season in franchise history. The state of the team, the dim prospects for the future and the overall demeanor of failure spells doom for the Chiefs in '08. I still can't believe Thigpen said that. It's so sad that a player can even publicly say that without any public repercussions.
It was without a doubt, the saddest sight of a very sad day of football for the Chiefs.
Just outside the team’s locker room are double-doors that lead down the tunnel at the 50-yard line and out to the field. Just before half-time, those double doors opened and Brodie Croyle limped through with a doctor and a trainer at his side.
Tears were streaming down his face.
Man, I feel bad for Brodie Croyle after reading that. Here's a guy who has probably wanted to play professional football for his entire life, gets his big chance and can't stay healthy. It's sad to hear that about any player. The guy is 25-years old and likely , over the next couple of years, have to find a completely new line of work. That's rough for anyone, let alone for someone with such a specialized skill as throwing a football.
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"We didn’t get shut out again," Thigpen said, "so that was really nice."
Puppies and kittens are “nice” you moronic excuse for an athlete. HOW in the name of anything good and holy can you attribute anything “Nice” to that performance?
So THESE are the types of “competitors” we have in our organization?
I’m embarassed to be a fan of a team with these types of players.
BTW…you played “nice” Pigpen.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 20, 2008 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Its easy to look good
when the other team has the game so locked up they’re laughing and telling each other jokes
by sm7600 on Oct 20, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember the 6th game of the 1980 World Series
where I think it was Fred Patek sitting alone on the bench after losing the game with his head down, feeling the pain of a blown chance at greatness. It wasn’t just a loss in “a game” it was the final game of the series and the Royals were beat 4-2. Patek took the loss to heart and it meant something to him to lose.
When I see players on the bench, laughing and cutting up during a 34-10 loss, it pains me to think about where their sense of pride is at that moment. It’s not about “just a paycheck” to the millions of fans who watch the game and cheer their favorite team week in and week out for year after year. It’s about giving everything you have in you for the full 60 minutes, and indeed if you do lose the contest, you know you can walk away having giving your absolute 100%effort and were defeated by a superior opponent.
Fans can live with that, and appreciate the fact you brought your lunch to work that day and will work harder for another chance next week. Just find me 53 players who will do that every week of a 17 week season, and I’ll find a way to deal with the losses. But if you do find those players and a management team that knows the game, there will be fewer losses that I have to deal with.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Oct 20, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo...show some pride
and the fans will appreciate you for it.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 20, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you sure you don't mean game 5 of the 1977 ALCS
where we’d just choked away the 2 game lead and the lead in that game?
by sm7600 on Oct 20, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sir, you may have me, I forgot about that?
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Oct 20, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I love Thigpen
Do you realize that Thigpen knows how bad he is? He is completely and totally aware that he serves as a third string quarterback. He knows what he is. And this is all he’s known. Failure. I’m not mad at him for this. It’s honest. If you’re looking to Thigpen for leadership, you’re looking in the wrong place. The kid doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing.
Everyone’s big on that, but the Titans were legitimately looking to shut us out yesterday. The throw to Bowe was pretty. You can hammer him for the missed passes, but he does have talent. He’s a bad quarterback, but he has talent.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 20, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not looking for leadership from Thigpen
…I’m looking for some restraint in making any comments whatsoever that are indicative of a “bright” spot. If he’s looking at that as something to “build upon”, which in my mind he’s trying to do, then here is a quote for him:
“Mr. Thigpen, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 20, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eric
From Billy Madison. Bad joke.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 20, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Croyle:
I’ve been a Brodie hater from day 1 but I now want this guy to remain a Chief. Even if it’s through rehabs. I think he should remain with us as a backup or third stringer once he gets healthy. If he doesnt contribute to the team physically, he will mentally. He went out when he could and did his best. That’s an example that all Chiefs need to follow.
Herm Edwards - the new Art Shell.
by CBaller13 on Oct 20, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm by no means a chiefs fan...
but i’ve been a brodie croyle fan since bama and getting o-line play like this isn’t going to turn him into anything. i hope they cut him so he can get on with another team and get a good chance. even if they keep him around in kc as a backup it wont help him for now if the line cant protect him.
by thejbow on Oct 20, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can't handle routine NFL contact
it won’t matter which NFL team he goes to…he can’t take it.
by sm7600 on Oct 20, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I won’t have a problem with Croyle as a third-stringer. I think he’s better than most of those guys. But he’s not even durable enough to be counted on as a backup. If the starting QB gets knocked out with injury ala Tom Brady, no team could count on Brodie Croyle staying healthy enough to be in the lineup for two or three games in a row, much less the whole season.
I think Croyle will probably end up getting invited to a couple of NFL camps for the next year or two, but I think he’s done as an NFL player.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 20, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Options
If Croyle is a very high risk on the field, wouldn’t that roster spot be better spent on someone who could potentially win the starting spot someday? They need to bring in 3 QBs and pray they find someone who can lead this team to victory. I really do hate to be cold like that, but this is a business where an undrafted 3rd stringer could end up becoming a stunning success. It’s time to drop our losses and move on.
by ChiefsDude on Oct 20, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Nothing personal against Croyle, but he’s probably not going to develop into much more than he is now because he can’t stay healthy and on the field, his experience in this offense isn’t going to matter if we wise up and fire the coaching staff, he won’t make much of a difference on this team next year if we don’t fire the coaching staff (because he’ll never be able to survive HermBall), and it’s just taking a spot away from somebody who could be in our future plans.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 20, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Honestly, I hope somebody else does take a chance on Brodie and finds success with him.
by ChiefsDude on Oct 21, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That'd Be Nice
I wish the guy good luck and hope he lands well…but I’ll be honest and admit that I don’t want the Chiefs to have to rely on him at any point in the future. Let someone else take that risk.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 21, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someday Croyle will be our starting QB
He will be our 2nd stringer, our starter will get hurt, and then Croyle will come in and do awesome and become our QB. That’s my prediction.
by Vince D on Oct 20, 2008 2:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nobody's Going To Make Him 2nd String
The odds of him being needed for multiple games is simply too great.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 20, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He knows our system better than anyone else
And no doubt that he has talent and the team looks up to him. I think we’d keep him around for sure.
by Vince D on Oct 20, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As A Third-Stringer, I'd Have No Problem With That
But there’s no way the Chiefs should ever count on him to be able to play as anything more than the emergency backup in a game. His availability will always be a problem.
And anyway, I seriously doubt we’ll be running this offense next year so Croyle’s experience in it won’t matter. I don’t think there’s any way that Herm Edwards survives to the 2009 season. And he’s the only one out of his coaching tree to run this piece of crap offense…Lovie and Dungy both accept a deeper passing game as an integral part of today’s NFL. His successor certainly isn’t going to be stupid enough to run it.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 20, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brodie
Would win in a QB contest hands down at this point assuming Huard doesn’t come back. That doesn’t make him any less a risk on the field. The fact that he’s good on the practice field is all the more reason to let him go now. Time to move on and find someone durable.
by ChiefsDude on Oct 20, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea
Why I’m responding to your posts, UC, like I disagree with you or something! lol! I think we’re on the same page. I’m agreeing.
by ChiefsDude on Oct 20, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Worries :)
I agree with most of what you said. I’m not sold on Croyle’s ability personally, but we both agree that it doesn’t matter because he’s too injury-prone to be relied on.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 20, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously though...
Croyle’s career is done. You can’t get hurt as many times as he has and continue to come back. This guy would be best served moving on with his life and finding a job that is non-contact. He gave it a great shot but someone or something is telling him that the NFL is just not where he should be.
You guys keep on really hoping for him but in reality he just doesn’t have it. This is why there is no football team in LA. Unfortunately, there are no Hollywood endings sometimes.
by THS '94 on Oct 20, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On answer missing from the poll
He’ll be e back-up for 5-7 years, but not bounce around.
Does anyone have a problem with him being OUR back-up for 5-7 years?
by PVChiefsfan on Oct 21, 2008 7:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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