This wouldn’t have been an issue if Jared was still in a KC uniform. A steady pass rush heals many a teams inadequacies. Our defense last year was decent, sure we had a lot of holes, but they kept us in a lot of games when our offense was quite offensive.

And that was with the personnel that did not especially fit the needs of the Cover 2 scheme (i.e. Nappy Harris & Ty Law) So pretty much Goonther is working again from scratch.
LB’s are the key to his Defenses, and 2 of the 3 starters are new(Thomas & Williams) The problem with our defense is that its taken awhile to finally find the pieces that fit together. Next year we maybe addressing the MLB position if Thomas continues to struggle. Last Sunday against the Broncos that LB corps looked like a unit who’s found its stride. They made plays, and that is why DJ is accepting honors for the AFC Def. Player of the week. Gun is the best D- Coordinator we had next to Bill Cowher.

The man still has it, he hasn’t fallen out of touch like Greg Robinson did.

Just how long it takes to truely rebuild a team. Though this is the first season of rebuilding the offense, this is the third year for rebuilding the defense. The defense is most definately improve over what it was three years ago by the infusion of new talent, but it takes time to build quality depth and not every draft pick is going to be a superstar.

The loss of Jared Allen has undoubtedly hurt us as well. You don’t just plug a different guy into the same position and get the same superior performance. There was nothing that could be done about the JA situation and they made the best of it, but it was a hit to the unit no question.

Improvment can be seen all over, but it just takes time for everything to completely come together.

Since Gun came back to the Chiefs his defense has been better every year than the year before. Now he has a huge influx of young players and it takes time to get everyone playing like they need to.

Keep in mind we only have TWO players in the same position as last year 3 if you count Surtain (but I think he may have lost his job now).

D-line: Hali – switched positions; Tank & Turk – now starting; Dorsey -rookie

LBs: Thomas -new MLB; DJ – switched sides at olb; Williams – FA

CBs: The Brandons – 2 rookies

Saftey: Page & Pollard – in same positions

It takes time for the players to get comfortable with their positions and the guys around them, but if we keep seeing the progress through the season that we saw last week we will be a killer D. The 2 main weaknesses I see is pass rushin DEs and MLB.

I agree with you all…dont come after me for opening a discuission forum lol

I personally think if we released Gunther the team that would go after him would be Denver…and we would regret it for years…

Assuming Carl and Herm get the ax at the end of the season, what do you think the odds are that Chan and Gun keep thier jobs? Slim to none. It would be a very unusual thing for a GM and a Head Coach to be replaced and not to have almost the entire coaching staff turn over at the same time… I hope that if Carl is given his pink slip that Herm stays around till the end of his contract if for no other reason than to keep Chan and Gun here one more season to facillitate these youngsters growing…

if Gunther were left completely alone to run the defense as he sees fit, would they be better? Gunther has built #1 defenses with KC and when he was in Tennessee. But he has kinda had to be a more conservative, cover 2 Herm-type defense, where he used to attack more. I like the attacking style of defense better, and I know he is trying to blend the two, but I have to wonder if it has had any effect? It is hard to have two conflicting philosophies.

for a youtube vidoe of Gun.

Love the guy!