Chiefs vs. Titans Poll

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 15, 2008 2:09 PM CDT

Having been off for two weeks we can assume that the team is rested and will come into Arrowhead with fresh legs. The coaching staff will have had plenty of time to prepare the Offense, Defense and Special Teams. They would have gone over the tape for the Titans and Herm has admitted they've gone over the tapes from the last 5 games.Lastly, we'll have had our starting QB rested and "healthy"

Hypothetically speaking, let's just assume what might happen by management. I think they'll play better, but it's the NFL and anything can happen...right? Heck, St. Louis won on the road with a "newly" appointed HC.

If you do believe a change would occur...what kind?

Would we change personnel on the field yet again?

Poll

If the Chiefs get blown out by the Titans at home and don't score any points as they did against the Panthers, will there be any management/coaching changes?

No. It's still too early in the season and Clark will wait

43 votes

Yes. If we don't score then someone will be let go.

12 votes

55 votes | Poll has closed

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I think Gun would get let go....

… I just think that if we get blown out, he’s the next scapegoat

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 15, 2008 2:15 PM CDT 0 recs

Unfair scapegoat

He’s an easy scapegoat because his defense gets tired easily when the offense is only on the field 3 plays at a time. What was the time in possession stat from the last game???

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Oct 15, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

Is It Really Unfair?

I mean, I like Gun too, but in his four years of being back here what have his defenses really done? And that’s working for two different coaches.

I don’t have a problem with keeping Gun, but I also don’t think it’s completely unfair if he’s made a scapegoat. The defense isn’t doing a very good job this season in any capacity.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

But

I do think that he’s not the biggest problem. I just don’t know if he’s part of the solution.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

His defeneses in the 4 years he's been here

Started out terrible from the team he inherited, and significanly improved every year, up until this year of course. How could you not remember how much our defense improved? Our offense is the reason our defense looked bad, but in reality they werent. Gun did a great job.

by Shawn on Oct 15, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

+1

on the unfairness of becoming a scapegoat if he does. It’s too early to point fingers at Chan though so that leaves him and possibly the quarterbacks coach (Dick Curl) depending on Brodie’s play.

by Shawn on Oct 15, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

Gunther's Defenses

Here’s the listing of where the Chiefs’ teams have ranked defensively. His defense actually gave up more points in 2007 than in 2006…those two years they leveled off. He’s never fielded a squad ranked in the top 10 in either yardage or points allowed. So his work hasn’t been great, although I’m also willing to concede that may be a factor of having to run Herm’s defense, which it doesn’t appear he’s a great fit for (which isn’t necessarily his fault).

Would I be happy if Gun came back? Sure…he may very well be able to turn it around when he doesn’t have to work within Herm’s constraints. Does he deserve to be a scapegoat? I don’t really think so. But he also hasn’t done anything in the last four years to make a firing a terrible injustice.

And yes, I’d rather see Dick Curl go than Gun.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

Are you just referring to his years since he came back?

He’s never fielded a squad ranked in the top 10 in either yardage or points allowed.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Oct 15, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yes

His defense’s best statistical season in points was 11th, in 2006. His best statistical season in yardage was 13th, in 2007 (but of course his defense’s allowed regressed to 13th that year).

That’s not to take anything away from his defense’s performance while Marty was here, but his defenses haven’t been anything special since he came back. And Jon Yoon wrote a good column on MVN today pointing out that this whole “Gunther’s coming out of the booth” stunt he’s pulling has been tried before and it didn’t work…and that the parts of the defense Gunther took over personally (linebackers) are worse than last year.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

Correction

but of course his defense’s points allowed regressed to 13th that year

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

He is starting 3 rookies

and we have yet to field a MLB.

You can’t win with 10 on the field.

by NJChiefsFan on Oct 15, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up 0 recs

Agreed...

…but I think Carl would blame him to save his hide…so would Herm. Solari got brought in this season by Herm and Carl so they couldn’t go to Clark and say “hey, we were wrong”.

It’s a game…in more ways then the obvious.

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 15, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up 0 recs

Solari?

You mean Gailey?

Agreed that if they decide they need a scapegoat, Gun’s the most likely choice.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yeah I mean't Gailey...the other side of the same coin ;-)

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 16, 2008 8:07 AM CDT up 0 recs

Solari = Gailey

I have not seen any change in our offense this year except for a couple of audibles being called by the QB. It’s probably just Herm’s playbook being used. The OC position is just a shell.

by augmental on Oct 15, 2008 4:24 PM CDT 0 recs

I think the

same thing, is it now labeled, Herms R2P2?

by Eric Allen on Oct 15, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

He might be

the obvious one to look to….but hes not, Our offense gets no production, and with a young inexperienced team 3 plays to sit out and look over what the other team is doing and re-group isnt enough time. I like Gun hes agressive and the players like him. We might see alot change after he comes to the field instead of sitting in the box

by DT58forever on Oct 15, 2008 4:25 PM CDT 0 recs