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Tony Gonzalez In His Last 11 Games As A Chief?

Bill Williamson, who covers the AFC West for ESPN, seems to think so.

I originally thought after the NFL trading deadline passed with him remaining in Kansas City, where he has been since he was the Chiefs' first-round pick in 1997, there was a chance that Gonzalez and the team could agree to march on together next season if he thought the team was committed to winning in 2009.

But from reading his comments after the trade deadline, it's clear that Gonzalez is angry at the team -- and particularly general manager Carl Peterson -- and wants to leave.

And that spells trouble for the Chiefs after this season unless something changes.

I'm firmly in the camp that it wasn't worth it to us to trade away Tony Gonzalez for a third round pick...the chances that we'd snag a player close to the caliber of player Gonzalez will be the next two and a half years with a choice that low are extremely slim (the only ones I can think of during Peterson's reign, off the top of my head, are Jared Allen, Dave Szott, Donnie Edwards and Will Shields...and Szott, Edwards and Shields were grabbed back in the Marty Schottenheimer era).  That said, if Gonzalez makes an issue of this and decides that he wants to force the Chiefs to make a trade this offseason (or if he decides to retire, which is less likely because he'd have to pay back a very large amount of money) not trading Gonzalez now becomes a major problem for us after 2008 if something's not done to mend fences.

And you can't really blame Gonzalez for being upset either...all he wanted was a straight response.  If the Chiefs had told him that a trade wasn't viable, he says he'd have accepted it.  He might not have liked it, but he'd have accepted it.  If the Chiefs hadn't gotten the offers they'd told Gonzalez they were looking for, he'd have understood.  The man's been a professional his entire career.  But from what Gonzalez claimed was said to him, Carl Peterson lied about trying to trade Gonzalez, and he turned down the offers he said he was looking for, and that's a slight that very few football players are going to be willing to overlook...and it's a pretty safe bet that the free agents looking for new homes after the 2008 season are going to notice as well, and that it'll make the Kansas City Chiefs a much less attractive destination (since nobody wants to deal with somebody who'll flat-out lie to them unless they have to).

Something's got to change if the Chiefs want to keep the Gonzalez situation from becoming a problem...and right now the first place that fingers should be pointing is at the the man who started this entire mess to begin with...Carl Peterson.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Nooooo

….Carl’s been like a “Second Father” to Tony (his own words from last week)
{my sarc.}

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 15, 2008 2:46 PM CDT   0 recs

Yeah

I’m betting that wasn’t his thought after hearing what Philly offered. :)

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 2:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually

It was “like a THIRD father figure”

..Don’t even know what that means..

by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 15, 2008 3:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The way Tony explained it a couple days ago

The “deal” was that if the Chiefs could get appropriate compensation for him they would trade him. You yourself said that you didn’t think a 3rd round pick was appropriate. So how can you now call Carl a liar because he didn’t pull the trigger on a trade that you wouldn’t have done either?

You so confuse me.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 15, 2008 4:51 PM CDT   0 recs

You're Confused Because You're Building A Straw Man Of My Position
So how can you now call Carl a liar because he didn’t pull the trigger on a trade that you wouldn’t have done either?

Gonzalez said he was told by Carl Peterson that the Chiefs would do a trade if a 3rd round pick was offered. A 3rd round pick was reportedly offered and Peterson rejected it. That’s why I questioned Peterson’s integrity…or, more precisely, why I said Tony Gonzalez appears to be questioning Peterson’s integrity.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 5:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's Tony's quote
“Nobody is going to trade a second for a 32-year-old tight end. All along Carl said he would do something that works for both parties. Then he talked about how he traded a third for Willie Roaf, and he made it pretty clear to me that’s what was going to get it done. That was certainly fair.”

by primetime 07 on Oct 15, 2008 5:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And

Peterson refused to verify whether he was offered a third rounder, which tends to lend credibility to Gonzalez’s side of the story.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 5:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ahem

Mr. Gonzalez drew that conclusion.

Carl never said that. It was implied. Gonzo accepted it as fact.

One can’t be naive about this sort of thing (Gonzo, not you).

by AngryJesus on Oct 15, 2008 6:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No Worries

I got what you meant.

But when you’re dealing with a situation with the most popular player on the team and a guy who’s given as much to the organization as Gonzalez has, the GM owes it to the player to be as honest with him as possible. Peterson can jerk around the other teams in trade all he wants as far as I’m concerned…but he shouldn’t jerk around Chiefs players who have been upfront with him. He should have let Gonzalez know exactly what it would take for Gonzalez to get traded out of there and not let him get his hopes unrealistically high and he quite obviously didn’t…he fed him a vague line about Willie Roaf then he quashed all offers. And now a problematic situation has been made even worse.

That’s just pure incompetence on the part of the GM.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 8:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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