Morning Update (Morning After Edition)

by Joel Thorman on Oct 15, 2008 7:56 AM CDT in 2008 Campaign Comment 19 comments

Get used to hearing this: Tickets are still available for the Titans-Chiefs game.
Jason Whitlock makes a convincing case against Carl Peterson's management style in the post-Marty days.
Anyone else find it strange that Herm said he hasn't nor plans to talk to Tony about this whole ordeal? Talk about an elephant in the room.
Kent Babb looks at Herm Edwards demeanor in yesterday's press conference. Are the cracks in the foundation becoming more visible?
Larry Johnson's accuser spoke about the early morning incident on February 24th. LJ's lawyer, Kevin Regan, said, "Our evidence is 100 percent clear and certain that Larry Johnson did not put his hands on any woman that night."
It's all hindsight now, but Crane offered up a few interesting options regarding Tony in his latest over at Arrowhead Addict.
Bob Gretz on the Tony Gonzalez talk: "several teams were interested only if changes could be made to his contract, and only if Gonzalez would agree to play more than one season with his new club."

Well, we made it through Trade Deadline week. For you stat geeks out there, we had one of our better runs yet. In the last two days we've had over 16,000 visitors and over 30,000 page views. Not too shabby while our fearless leader is gone (which he'll be back on Friday morning if I'm not mistaken). Thanks again to ALL of you for your contributions!

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I would personally like to thank myself

for completely unabashed rumor mongering :)

by stag on Oct 15, 2008 7:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That's the best part of deadline week

Everyone has a rumor and they are usually from legit sources.

by Joel Thorman on Oct 15, 2008 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

From ESPN Power Rankings:

“The Chiefs are coming off their bye week. Did anyone notice they were gone? (BW)”

This is what we have become.

Herm Edwards is a retard.

by CBaller13 on Oct 15, 2008 8:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The Only Reason The Large Media Pundits Aren't Pointing Out How Bad The Rebuilding Effort Is

Is that they don’t care enough to even pay attention.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey UCrawford

What is this crap about with all these Chiefs fans standing up for Herm and putting all the blame on Carl for this mess of a team. It’s like we don’t trade Tony and now all of our problems are because of Carl. If I remember correctly our team was fine with Carl as GMand Vermeil and Shottenheimer as coach. I in no way think that Carl is a good GM and I want him gone, but I also have to still point a lot of the blame towards Herm and his lack of coaching ability. You with me on this one?

Herm Edwards is a retard.

by CBaller13 on Oct 15, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Think They're Both Responsible

And they both deserve blame for the current debacle. But I’m increasingly of the opinion that Carl’s more to blame than Herm. So I can see their point. I think Whitlock really nailed it. And Carl’s been here longer than Herm has.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

But to say that Herm should stick around would be a huge mistake and I feel like that is what Whitlock is getting at. I mean look at the games being played more than the players. So many decisions during the game are terrible. Carl definately needs to go but to give Herm another season would be a huge error and if this happens I will look back a year from now and prove to all these Herm supporters that his style is just not going to work in the NFL anymore.

Herm Edwards is a retard.

by CBaller13 on Oct 15, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whitlock Doesn't Care About Herm

He said in a column a week or so ago that Herm is irrelevant and he doesn’t care whether Herm stays or goes. His point is that it’s all a pointless debate until Peterson’s gone and that once Peterson is fired Herm should be left to fend for himself with the new boss on whether or not he keeps his job. So there’s really no Herm favoritism on the part of Whitlock…just focus on what the biggest part of the problem with the Chiefs is (which I’ve been saying all along, only to get dismissed as a “Carl Hater”).

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

alright I agree

I think you are right that it’s more Carl’s fault than Herm’s fault.

Herm Edwards is a retard.

by CBaller13 on Oct 15, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I Agree

That Herm’s not helping matters and shouldn’t be here next season either.

But let’s put out the house fire first, then worry about shaking the soot out of the rugs. :)

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

They used to care when we had Vermeil and Priest and a high powered, fun-to-watch offense.

Herm Edwards is a retard.

by CBaller13 on Oct 15, 2008 8:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking

That the cracks are becoming visible. He is starting to act toward the media the way he acted toward the NY media while he was being pushed out. That was a great follow up question, how does this reflect on you, and the orginazation that your star player wants out. Herm clearly took offense to it, did not take any responsibility on the Chiefs situation.

by Eric Allen on Oct 15, 2008 8:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Or

It’s on Carl. Maybe Herm was saying that Carl is in charge of personnel. And judging from the comments from TG this was all Carl and TG doing the talking.

by Joel Thorman on Oct 15, 2008 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My Prediction

Both Herm and Carl will be gone after this season’s over. Change is in the air, and I doubt that Clark Hunt’s going to be happy with the rebuilding effort if the GM and coach aren’t even on the same page.

I’m still hoping that we’ve got a shot at Martin Mayhew as Carl’s replacement. The odds went down with that Roy Williams trade. Any team’s got to love a GM that gets a 1st rounder and two other picks for a WR who hasn’t been great in two years and who’s played in 16 games once in his career. But William Clay Ford is terrible enough that he may hire Floyd Reese or some other retread and let Mayhew go. And the Chiefs should jump on that immediately.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Think about how much

Money and compensation for a guy that will be the #3 option behind TO/Witten for the next few years.

by Joel Thorman on Oct 15, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not The Next Few Years

I wouldn’t be surprised to see TO get squeezed out next year. If you read Matt Mosley’s column on ESPN, he’s noting that TO’s getting dominated by mediocre corners now. The guy’s old and I think the age is starting to show.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I still like Casserly, Cowher combo.

by Eric Allen on Oct 15, 2008 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The next few weeks are crucial

If we’re going to end with a highnote, we need to start seeing them now. We need to see some sacks. We NEED Brodie to show the ability to make a few plays, and some solid throws. We need the secondary to keep playing as well as it has, if not better. And we need someone, anyone on the O-Line to step up and give LJ some holes.

Even if we get blown out the next few weeks, we can show some improvement which will lead to us at least being close in the closing part of the season.

Also, I’m starting to think more and more about what it would take for us to get multiple first round picks in the top 15. I know we can’t trade Tony or LJ straight up for them, but what if we trade them for pieces and then bundle them to trade up? We can still keep enough of our later round picks, but offer a cornucopia for a few prize roasts. Make sense?

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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 15, 2008 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not impressed with Herm, but

if he’s not given the players he needs how can he succeed? That ultimately falls on the GM, and Carls Free Agents have been down right awful.

Something in me believes that Herm is saying this exclusively through the draft, because he doesn’t have much else to say if players like Josh Brown is signed by somebody else, or any Free Agent that they were targeting in the offseason, but failed to sign.

This deal that never was with Tony might be the final nail that seals Carl fate. The guy has been running the team like its his own personal playground.

by aPacificChief on Oct 15, 2008 10:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs