NFL Trade Deadline Roundup
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 5:56 PM CDT
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- The big news for us, of course, is that Tony Gonzalez is still in Kansas City. The asking price was apparently set at a 2nd and 5th round pick for the 32 year old tight end.
- Jerry Jones did what he does best and created a splash by acquiring WR Roy Williams from the Lions for a 1st, 3rd and 6th round pick. The two sides have set the parameters of a contract extension believed to be in the 5-year range (and presumably valued in the neighborhood of Larry Fitzgerald's $10 million per year deal). An interesting twist to this story (of course there's a twist, it's the Cowboys), if Pacman Jones hadn't been suspended minutes before the Cowboys made their deal, it would have been voided because his suspension means the Cowboys will not have to send the Titans a 6th round pick instead Tennessee will send the Cowboys a 5th (as stipulated in the trade if Pacman was suspended again when it went down).
- The Indianapolis Colts acquired a defensive tackle in John McCargo who was a first round pick just three years ago (and the Bills even traded back into the 1st round to nab him).
- Per the other AP, the Washington Redskins signed Shaun Alexander to a contract.
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That Was A Bad Trade For The Cowboys
But a great trade for the Lions and for me.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Detroit’s next GM will not be blowing those first round picks on a wide receiver.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was an awful trade
Just awful. WR is usually one of the less impact players on the team. What are the chances Roy’s production will be that much higher than Patrick Crayton’s?
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Roy Williams has proven he is worth that kind of compensation in exactly one season. I know this is a futures market but you can only predict future success on past success and Williams has played 16 games one time in his career.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jerry wanted to cover his butt with this sensational headline...
After the debacle that happened with Adam Jones.
by aPacificChief on Oct 15, 2008 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My KSK response:
Adam Pacman Jones had not broken any "team rules."
Other "team rules:"
No stabbing your teammate in the neck with scissors unless there is at least 2 or fewer barbershop seats available.
Confine open cocaine use to gametime and non-gametime hours.
DO NOT at anytime consider the touching the Double-J’s holster.
Should Deon come around, hook a brother up.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Oct 15, 2008 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fa Sheezy
Pacman down wit it.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 15, 2008 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Think It Will Be A Lot Higher
Roy Williams is a very, very talented receiver…easily capable of being a number one. Crayton’s solid, but average.
The missed games are troublesome, but not overly so. Defenses also won’t be keying up on him all game like they did most of his time in Detroit.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The giants offered a fourth for TG
I think we should have taken it.
by Eric Allen on Oct 14, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bah
2nd and 5th rounder were about right. I doubt anyone was interested in giving that, but that’s what he was worth to us. Any less and we’d be making ourselves worse off.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have been fine with a 2nd rounder
Or even a 3rd along with a later round pick.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think TG
and a seventh for their second, and we would not be having this conversation.
by Eric Allen on Oct 14, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Fine With How It Worked Out
Like I said, he wasn’t worth a 2nd rounder to other teams, but I think for the duration of his contract (if he chooses to finish it out) he’ll be worth that (or more) to us.
Sometimes the smartest trade is the one you don’t make.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am glad he is
Here, but hate the situation he is in. Yes he did sign yhe contract, but honestly did anyone think this team would be completely horrible? I am sure TG thought this team would be at least competitive.
by Eric Allen on Oct 14, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rarely
Are teams in the first year of rebuilding competitive.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Mean
Like the Falcons?
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by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I say rarely
Because how often do you get a rookie like Matt Ryan performing like he is?
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know his #s aren't at the top
But he’s not losing games for them which is all you can ask for in a rookie QB. In fact, he made the throw that won them the game last week.
Michael Turner has helped too.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's More Than Just That
They upgraded a lot over the season…shuffled a lot of their top players out like we did (several of them playing at a higher level than the guys we got rid of) and yet they’ve got a better team.
The difference, in my opinion, is that when they got rid of their players, they replaced them with guys like Michael Turner, Jason Elam, Kindal Moorehead. Whereas when we brought in free agents to replace our departed players we took guys that bad teams dumped (DeMorrio Williams, Wade Smith, Adrian Jones). It’s one thing to flush your scrubs and replace them with more talented young players. It’s another thing to flush your scrubs and replace them with scrubs who just happen to be young.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
I don’t think you can overstate just how important good coaching is. Mike Solari ran a bad, predictable offense for Herm Edwards last year so we brought in Chan Gailey…to run another bad, predictable offense for Herm Edwards. The Falcons brought in Mike Mularkey to run a Mike Mularkey style offense for Mike Smith. Or look at the Bills…Jauron’s had terrible offenses in his head coaching career so he brings in Turk Schoenert to run a Sam Wyche-style offense. Herm on the other hand, brings in offensive coordinators to run the same style offense he’s failed with before.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First year????????
C’mon UCrawford, I hold you to higher standard than that.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Oct 14, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Falcons scrapped the core of their lineup and brought in a new coaching staff. If that’s not rebuilding, nothing is.
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by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chiefs records vs. Falcons
03: Chiefs 13-3 Falcons: 5-11
04: Chiefs 7-9 Falcons: 11-5 (NFC South Champions)
05: Chiefs 10-6 Falcons: 8-8
(Vermeil to Herm transition [same offense mantra])
06: Chiefs 9-7 (Back into playoffs) Falcons: 7-9
07: Chiefs 4-12 Falcons: 4-12 (Michael Vick go bye-bye)
Which team has been rebuilding for more than 1 year?
C’mon?
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Oct 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Chiefs
Because unlike the Chiefs the Falcons actually got rid of last year’s head coach and GM (and starting RB, and starting TE, and starting CB, and starting LT, and starting LB). We’ve had the same one in place for 19 years. And he’s been “rebuilding” since our last playoff win14 years ago..
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point...
The Falcons have had a seemingly successful rebuilding year (We would say among several [rebuilding, not successful necessarily]) recently.
But you can’t earnestly claim that the Vermeil years were rebuilding years sir?
{your counter argument is that Herm should have started rebuilding in ‘06 rather than sticking with this "it’s the same offense" BS, which I agree with, but reinforces my point that this is year numero uno of Chiefs’ rebuilding where the Falcons have clearly been rebuilding, suffering, and changing the recipe for almost a decade and have finally got it right (hopefully for them)}.
I think the kill point is that I’d rather have been a Chiefs’ fan for the past 10 years than a Falcons’ fan. The next ten? Well I let you hit one out of the park.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Oct 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have been a Chief's fan the last decade as well
And in the future, I think we’ll turn this thing around quicker than they ever imagined.
by AngryJesus on Oct 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With this coach?
Falcons went thru a couple of coaches to get it right.
by Eric Allen on Oct 14, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm, yes
To the same degree that you think it won’t happen.
by AngryJesus on Oct 14, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
::checks watch::
I can’t read these things. I’m told it has
by AngryJesus on Oct 14, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He-He!
Just wondering Sundays have turned into groundhog day! Don’t drive angry!
by Eric Allen on Oct 14, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rebuilding
My point is that it’s not really rebuilding when the same guy is in charge who made the team bad in the first place…especially when he wasn’t building teams that were that good to begin with.
The Vermeil years were rebuilding years…from the Gunther Cunningham years, which were rebuilding from the end of the Marty Schottenheimer years. Same as Herm Edwards is “rebuilding” from Vermeil.
If you look at the pattern, each coach in progression…Marty (9 winning seasons out of 10), Cunningham (1 out of 2), Vermeil (2 out of 5), Edwards (1 out of 3)…has enjoyed less success than the coach before him with the same person in charge. So the Chiefs have been in a constant state of rebuilding since Marty Schottenheimer left…it’s just that the GM tries to distract everyone from the fact that the rebuilding effort’s been failing for over a decade by changing coaches periodically and claiming that each one is really different, when the problem is that the same guy’s running the program and he’s hoping that nobody notices that his ideas on how to build a winning football team are being left further and further behind by the rest of the NFL (regardless of who the coach is). It’s slapping on a fresh coat of paint to hide the rot.
Atlanta finally got off that bandwagon and canned the guys in charge and started fresh. The Chiefs never have…that’s why they’ve been rebuilding for much longer than the Falcons have.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clarification
My point is that it’s not really a new rebuilding when the same guy is in charge who made the team bad in the first place…especially when he wasn’t building teams that were that good to begin with
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by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I'm Angry Jesus...
…and I have nothing to add but trolling and pictures I’ve Googled off the Net."
:)
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey...
He did take the time to google a picture that accurately expressed his feelings. Sure, the PARADE is biased here, but that a lot more impressive than throwing around “idiot” or typical trolling.
And to be fair, WE ARE OBSEQUIOUS SELF INDULGENT A-HOLES, and this thread was set off by a full-throated (no homo, no homophobic) endorsement of your above average NFL commentary.
To reiterate:
Correct: The Falcons’ rebuilding effort over the past year has yielded better results than the Chiefs’ effort.
False: The Chiefs have openly proclaimed to be “rebuilding” for as long as the Falcons have been.
New Insight: picks like Dorsey and Albert will serve the KC organization longer and better than Matt Ryan’s admirable but unsubstantiated promise.
That said, as a Brodie apologist, would I trade Croyle for Ryan? In a heartbeat.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Oct 15, 2008 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+10
to all of these. Affirmed, Parade. Affirmed.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 15, 2008 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair point
I agree with you in “theory” but there’s a big difference between when a team openly throws around the term “rebuilding” and when they should be rebuilding.
The state of our offensive line is the biggest sin of the Chiefs organization IMO.
My previous 10 comparison stands regarding the Falcons.
Another point is that HONESTLY I feel better about the Chiefs tanking a gutting out a rebuilding effort in a crazy year, than having a Falcons team that has capitalized on that crazy year.
I’ll remind Falcons’ lovers they pooped the bed in their two divisional games and their Hail the Conquering heros of 4-2 edged out Aaron Rodgers (impressive) chicago (elampressive) US (golf clap) and Detroit (polite smile).
So I’m hanging tight on the Atlanta is a new AFC south power house call.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Oct 15, 2008 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Petrino bail out on them?
Emmitt Thomas was an Interim coach. The Falcons are a mess who got lucky with Ryan.
by aPacificChief on Oct 15, 2008 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Not Just Ryan
It was also a few smart free agent signings of young, talented players for critical positions, which is exactly what Carl and Herm claimed we were trying to do (but didn’t).
Both teams are rebuilding, but only one is actually making progress.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have to agree with that...
We’ll have to see what Clark has to say about it……and it might be sooner than we think.
by aPacificChief on Oct 15, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Sincerely Hope So
I’m actually fine with giving Herm Edwards the rest of the year (well, not so much fine, but I could live with it) because there’s not a whole lot we can do to fix the on-field situation this season. But Carl’s got to go now…we need a real GM running this club, and it’s not Peterson or his proxy Kuharich.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think Clark is that impulsive that
he would fire Carl in the middle of the season. The guy stikes me as more methodical, probably wait til the end of the season to start choppin’.
With the statements that Carl has made about stepping aside from the football aspect, and concentrating on the business aspect tells me that he’s starting to feel the heat like never before.
by aPacificChief on Oct 16, 2008 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to answer what you're about to say
Give Atlanta and Miami the rest of the season first.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of Course
In the two matchups they’ve played us, they’ve both destroyed us. Granted, the Dolphins matchup was preseason, but that Falcons game we were out of it by halftime. Even if the Falcons end up with about the same record as last year I’d say they demonstrated decisively that they’re far ahead of us. And the Dolphins are demonstrating a lot more potential than we are right now. They badly beat the Patriots team we barely lost to.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe its more proof
How crucial a QB is then.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See My Post Above
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Think This Team Could Be Competitive
Even next year. Just not with the current coach.
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by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schefter reports as high as a 3rd was offered.
http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/10/14/peterson-just-couldnt-part-with-gonzalez/
Tony is going to go ballistic on Carl.
by DThomasReigns on Oct 14, 2008 6:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
PT you have
To admit with a different offensive scheme/philosiphy, we are more competitive than we are now. A coach with some iagination can get more out of these players.
by Eric Allen on Oct 14, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the McCargo trade
he must have been a bust to not have been starting before Shroud showed up. I always assumed he was talented since he was drafted 1st round but I haven’t watched him play. Perhaps the Ryan Sims scenario in that he played around talented defense in college which improved his draft stock
What a dumb, dumb trade by the Cowboys. How could have the Lions refused?
The Tony saga isn’t over and I don’t think he’s the type to be a malcontent but I get the vibe homeboy is pissed off. He’s definitely gone in the offseason and the question is now what will we get for him then? A 3rd rounder still or will teams be more willing to let go of their 2nd & 5th picks in the offseason? He’s vital to our offensive scheme so if we keep him for the rest of the year and move him before the draft then well played by the front office
My Dad is a renounced Chiefs fan who called up just to tell me about Herm’s press conference. I haven’t watched it yet but he said he thinks Herm is pissed at Tony for making this an issue. Anyone see this?
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 14, 2008 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: McCargo Trade
I thought we were bad at drafting, but at least majority of our 1st round picks remain w/ the team (unlike Buffalo)
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 14, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony "Sisyphus" Gonzalez
With many apologies to Titian I present Tony’s eternal struggle.
Blame my wife!
by sir eccles on Oct 14, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rock
Should be shaped like Carl Peterson.
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by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or
You could find a picture of Tony G. from “The Rime of the Ancient Mariner” with the albatross with Carl’s head hanging around Tony’s neck. That would symbolize that his curse would only be lifted once the albatross drops off.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling
You’ve been thinking about that for a while :)
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
It just popped into my head. Plus there’s been this classic literature vibe floating around the site the last few days. :)
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by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
I’m taking a class on ancient Greek and showed my professor DJ’s post…she was pretty impressed.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 14, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Well She Should Be
It was a very good post. I suspect DJ put a lot of time and effort into it.
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by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2008 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So this is how it ends.
One of the greatest players we’ve ever had, we keep because we couldn’t get higher pick that we would inevitably waste on another D-Lineman that doesn’t make an impact. Shannon Sharpe gets to hold over him forever that he never got a ring. The ultimate proof of the inconsequentiality of this franchise over the last 40 years.
Congrats, we managed to not get ripped off by getting nothing in return for a player that won’t help us down the road and who desperately deserved better from this organization. Everyone gets to feel comfy knowing we didn’t let Tony go for less than he deserved.
We just drug him down to the level of the rest of the organization.
I need a drink.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 15, 2008 12:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
IF and this is an "if" the size of the Soviet Union
The Chiefs draft two years of O-Linemen studs and Linebackers. (Hell, we could keep Brodie if he lives or bring on the Ingle if these guys all block like Albert).
AND Tony doesn’t find the lottery of off-season options appealing enough (ie: whoever losed the superbowl, green bay, NYG’s who will undoubtedly implode).
Then the 2011 season may make you eat your words sir.
Put it this way, Jared Allen ain’t winnin any Super Bowl’s soon.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Oct 15, 2008 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2011 I'm Hoping For 6 Wins
I’m being realistic. With Herm, without Herm,regardless. 6 wins would be a great turnaround.
I’m still not sold on drafting linemen. Their development takes too long and you need other good ones surrounding them to develop them. Signing Alan Faneca would have done wonders this year. Even one more slightly-sub-Pro-Bowl lineman would make a huge impact. But that’s just what I see from here. I understand everyone else thinks drafting linemen is the way to go.
I wonder if he’ll just resign himself to where he’s at. He may just break from that competitive spirit. It happens to a lot of guys when they realize they’re never going to get the ring.
I hope it does, Parade, I hope it does.
Yeah, but that’s because Jared Allen is a juicebag and God hates juicebags.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 15, 2008 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Signing another pro-bowl O-line free agent
COUGH oh that, that would have been COUGH a great idea, but really, who would have such foresight and brilliance? Who I ask you?
I say on D you can do it, I think the Gunther haters are idiots (and Nap Harris can frankly go get stuck), but we NEED linebackers, studs, killers.
On O-line we still have Waters, I actually am still a Rudy fan (shocking myself), but man a big boy 2nd round RT and a 3rd or 4th ginormous RG for LJ would be HUGE. I’m talking Chiefs back in business.
We want to be the late 90’s Steelers now, that’s very unsexy, but an awesome position to want to be in.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Oct 15, 2008 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hold off
on whether LJ is ever going to be the one to put us back in business. Let’s see him have a great game back to back since two years ago first. That is if he can manage not to get suspended during it.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 15, 2008 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's shed some light in another area as well...
Chief fans, I most certainly enjoy exploring the endless possibilities of players, coaches, and strategies that will turn this dark season into a less painless season. But, I submit to you that we should also focus some of our distain of this season upon the Kansas City Chief organization itself.
In 2003, this organization was the 19th most profitable franchise in the NFL with a net worth of $601 million. Our won/loss record that year was 12-4. I believe that many fans would find it interesting that in 2007 this organization was the 13th most profitable franchise in the NFL with a net worth of $960 million. Our won/loss record last year was 4-12. As an added note, that was a 7% increase in net worth as compared to 2006 9-7 playoff season. I was amazed to learn that gate receipts, including club box seats, were $46 million in 2007. The capacity of Arrowhead stadium is 79,451 with an average ticket price of $67. In 2007, that average attendance was over 68,000 fans.
When we say organization, let us be realistic and say Clark Hunt and Carl Peterson. These two gentlemen have invoked an age old sports business technique know has "Rebuilding". This technique is only profitable in markets where a strong fan base exists. I offer the Pittsburg Pirates as an example of the opposite of this technique. This is most certainly a young (in NFL experience) team, but this is not a young talented team. We most certainly can question the level of talent in the "experienced" coaching staff. This team was assembled not to be a contending team with a successful won/loss record, but merely to be a profitable team.
Some would say they are simply making room for future higher salary players to improve the talent level of this team. I answer that with this simple question: When was the last appearance by this organization in the Super Bowl?
I have no doubt that when the 2008 numbers are compiled, Clark Hunt and Carl Peterson will have realized and achieved their goal for this season. Unfortunately, it will not equate in our goal of seeing a successful contending team in 2008.
by TouchdownKansasCity on Oct 15, 2008 1:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any Chance
That Primetime can post this as a front page article? I think it merits attention.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enlightening post TDKC
That was most likely the reason why Carl stayed on as GM for almost 20 years. Carl kept teasing us with the hope of making it to the Super Bowl just to keep the stadium full. Hence the theory of finding the quick fix at QB or the aging Free Agent that would keep us competitve for a few more years. While never addressing the painful years that are required into developing a team that would be prepared to take the next step.
Nobody likes a loser, all they need is to do is sell HOPE. Everything nowadays is always based on the bottom line. Chiefs fans are wising up though, if they don’t produce a Super Bowl winner soon how much longer do they think they can continue to fool us.
Did I say that I thoroughly enjoyed your post? Been feeling that way, but could never put my finger on what was actually happening during those DT years.
by aPacificChief on Oct 16, 2008 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a side note
Ranked 29th against the run allowing more than 160 rushing yards a game, Indianapolis has been starting 2007 seventh-round draft pick Keyunta Johnson and undrafted rookie free agent Eric Foster. Neither weigh more than 265 pounds.
Wow…I think most college teams have 2 DT’s who weigh more than that.
by PVChiefsfan on Oct 15, 2008 7:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you...
KCShuffle, primetime, and UCrawford. I find it easy to write when the subject invokes a passion within. My facts are based on the Forbes report on NFL franchises.
I have joined with many of you in casting my doubt on Herm Edwards and this group of players. It wasn’t until I removed the emotion of being a Chief’s fan that I was able to look at this strictly from a business perspective. Not unlike Clark Hunt and Carl Peterson.
Herm Edwards and these players are merely the tool in which the organization has implemented to carry out its mission of what I can only assume is to make into the top 10 of profitable franchises in the NFL.
I add to the Chiefs bottom line just the like the rest of the Chief Nation. I sit in Arrowhead on home games, purchase my cold frosty beverage, and wear my 88 jersey proudly.
If we could only have the words Super Bowl and Kansas City mentioned in the same sentence without a reference to a dome over the stadium.
by TouchdownKansasCity on Oct 15, 2008 10:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Business Is Always A Part Of It
And perhaps by Lamar Hunt’s standards Carl Peterson was an excellent GM because he kept the team profitable.
But we don’t see any of that profit, nor have we seen championship caliber football from the Chiefs since Peterson’s been here so I don’t think that the money Peterson’s made for the Hunts should factor into what the fans have to say about Carl Peterson. World’s full of accountants, and if his only focus is getting money for his boss and he doesn’t care what the customer gets, then as GM he deserves all the criticism we can muster.
For me, I’ll just focus on the on-field product and the things related to the on-field product. That’s the limit of the benefit that fans get from this team, so that’s all we should really have to care about.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Oct 15, 2008 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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