Edwards is a proven head coach. The only active head coaches with more playoff appearances since 2001 are Indianapolis’ Tony Dungy and New England’s Bill Belichick. Edwards has 29 years of NFL experience, and 16 as a coach. He was in Kansas City during the glory years, when defense ruled the land and wins far outnumbered losses

LOL…I just love this site!

Actually a little longer. He’s clearly not as good of a coach as Cowher and it took him 14 years.

But let’s give a little credit to UC. He’s just giving his opinion. I agree we ought to give Herm more time to implement his plan.

is also not sub.500 in his career.

Nice job completely glossing over the fact that he loses more games than he wins. DJ, if you’re going to frontpage something, make it something neutral, not more propaganda for the “SAVE HERMIE!” campaign.

Of which I’m still a member.

This is the week we’re going to turn it around! I can feel it!

Personally, I’ve never been one to demand coaches at any level be fired within the first year or two of their job. I think that in college a coach deserves at least five years to do his job for evaluative purposes barring major NCAA infractions, scandals involving malfeasance on the part of the coaching staff (like with what happened with Baylor basketball a few years ago under Dave Bliss). Mangino had the team winning in his 4th season and competitive in almost every game his 5th season so I was glad to have him in the 6th season.

In pros because of how the NFL is set up (to encourage parity) the window is shorter. I think a coach deserves three or four years to demonstrate what he can do. The Belichick to Herm comparison is apt. Although being old enough to remember Belichick’s Cleveland stint I never recalled him being as questionable a decision maker as Herm in regards to lineups or playcalling…he played the best players he had and he managed the game well, he just had a very talent deficient team but he got the most he could out of them (including an 11-5 record his fourth year, which is better than any season Herm’s ever posted in his career). Then he got fired after his fifth season when age finally caught up with Earnest Byner, injuries wrecked every other running back on the roster and the rushing attack fell apart (plus, as I recall, he was clashing with management). I never had the impression of Belichick as a bad coach…I thought he was decent enough and a good game manager, but I didn’t find his firing too unfair at the time. I also thought he was a decent hire by New England when it was made (although I obviously had no clue that he’d be as good as he’s been). And of course by his second season in New England he’d taken a team from 5-11 to winning the Super Bowl and he’s never really looked back.

Herm, on the other hand, is a rather inept signal caller…has been for most of his career. I did think at the time he was let go that his firing might have been unfair as he’d had a couple of competitive years in there. Can’t say, though, that I really watched a lot of Jets football (or that of any team) since I was living overseas while Herm was coach there and the games didn’t come on until late (and I had to be up and on my way to work by 5:30 AM on Mondays). Once I got back to the States and watched the games, though, it became pretty obvious that he wasn’t a very good playcaller. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt through 2006 and 2007 though…pretty much until the point where he and Carl Peterson announced that an injury-prone Brodie Croyle was going to be the unquestioned starter at QB and no other QBs were brought in, despite a season in 2007 in which he couldn’t outperform his backup and a preseason in 2008 that looked a lot like his 2007 season. At that point I knew that Herm was also a pretty questionable evaluator of talent as well when your coach isn’t very good tactically and can’t identify the best players or biggest holes on his roster the team’s in serious trouble with that guy running things. And so far during the season he’s done nothing to disprove that. So I’m perfectly fine with calling for his head. He’s had seven full seasons as a head coach and all I see is a guy who can’t manage a game, who likes to look for diamonds in the rough, who isn’t that good at it outside of defensive backs, and who isn’t particularly focused on winning or losing football games. Pretty much what the New York press and the Jets fans I’ve come across have been saying about the guy for years…a team-killer.

Although I’m not as set on the team needing to fire Herm Edwards as I am on the team needing to fire Carl Peterson. Peterson has, by far, been the bigger problem here and I think Peterson needs to go first and the new GM should be allowed to decide what to do with Herm. If the new guy decides Herm should be given another year, fine…let Herm do his job with some actual pressure to keep his job (which Carl Peterson has never put on him, to Herm’s detriment). But somehow I doubt anyone’s going to come in to work on this team, look at what Herm’s achieved on the field and decide he’s part of the solution here.

and see where the team is at. But why did the same GM only give Gun two years with two .500 seasons?

We just need to get rid of Carl, Herm, LJ, and those pathetic QB’s. Carl is slow to react. Edwards is an idiot. Croyle has no ball control unlike Huard and who the hell is that 3rd stringer? And LJ can’t make changes when needed. Up the middle, right into a pile of people. He’s too short and has no sense of direction. We have some good young prospects but we need some “good” veterans to show them how it’s done. It’s increasingly more difficult to watch. I got through part of the thrid quarter last game before I turned it off.