Chiefs Sign New Wide Receiver
by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 11:10 AM CDT
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Today the Chiefs signed a new wide receiver, ex-Bear Mark Bradley.
A second-round pick of the Bears in 2005, Bradley's career has mostly been a disappointment.
He had his best season when he was a rookie, making 18 catches. That number fell to 14 the following season and six last year.
His lack of production aside, I actually like this signing. Wide receivers are rarely good in their first season or two and the Bears have been saddled with the worst QB situation in the league for the last couple of years (just ahead of the Chiefs). Bradley's still a young player (26), his yards per catch have been solid through his career (while playing in an offense as inept as Kansas City's), and his lack of production appears to be more a factor of usage rather than ability.
Will he stick? No clue...maybe he's another Eddie Kennison, maybe he's another Devard Darling. It's not promising that the Bears, who are definitely in need of quality receivers, let him go. But then the Bears front office's record on evaluating talent is so unimpressive as of late that it wouldn't be a surprise if they let a decent player slip through the cracks as well. One thing is certain, Bradley will get a shot to show he belongs in a starting lineup in Kansas City, considering the injuries and underwhelming performances from all KC receivers not named Bowe.
Update: Apparently health has been an issue with Bradley as well. He had surgery to repair a torn ACL in 2005, and his route running has reportedly been questionable. But he appears to be healthy now, and as such he's not a horrible signing for the Chiefs...especially if he ends up taking B.J. Sams' heretofore wasted roster spot.
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Chicken or the Egg
Is it the QB that makes the receiver or the receiver that makes the QB – other than those few outstanding players that are just amazing on their own.
Agreed
Too early to tell. Guess we’ll find out though. While the Bears are hardly world-class talents at evaluating players, the same management team that cut him was also the same one that drafted him. So maybe he is a crap player, or maybe he was just in a terrible offense…but it’s a low-risk signing for us, so it’s probably worthwhile.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
Why the Darling Animosity?
I mean you coulda used Sammie Parker.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Oct 1, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions
We drafted Parker
I think he was just talking about retreads – Kennison was a successful one, Darling thus far has not been
Not Really Animosity Towards Darling...They're Just Good Comparisons
Darling was the same sort of deal as Bradley…a 26 year old guy who reportedly was a great athlete who translated little of it to the field in his time with Baltimore, and we speculated at the time that may or may not have been a factor of the terrible QB/offensive situation there. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to say that Darling’s been pretty underwhelming during his time here, especially since he supposedly has world-class speed but he got run down from behind by the Patriots in the open field. I just threw Darling’s name in because the situations were fairly identical.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
Didn't Sams have an ACL tear?
And now look at his playmaking ability….the difference I can see off the bat is that this guy was a 2nd rd pick (pick 39, just outside of the 1st rd) – therefore he showed promise somewhere along the line. Darling was a 3rd rounder and Sams was undrafted. Both teams (Ravens and Bears) have had questionable WR choices so hopefully we’re not seeing the horse of a different color.
Sams' Was A Little More Severe
I think there was knee damage plus a broken leg. And Sams’ other skills weren’t particularly great pre-injury…I think he’s really only been a kick returner.
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Horses
Both teams (Ravens and Bears) have had questionable WR choices so hopefully we’re not seeing the horse of a different color.
Hopefully he’ll work out. But if not it’s okay…we don’t have much invested in him anyway so we can dump him with no real penalty. It’s not like Robinson or Franklin have done anything out there to justify getting more minutes than Bradley.
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I really meant
the same horse, just different color. Tough to get on a roll with these things and use the right cliches at the same time : )
What happened to Chad Jackson??
Has anyone signed him yet?
If everyone worked as hard as me, I would be out of a job.
-Steve Nash
Good signing
I know nothing about the guy, but we should be trying out young receivers like this. Bradley is tall (6’2’’) has some experience in the NFL and could just be looking for a shot like a young receiver we once let go named Joe Horn.
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Joe Horn had lots of opportunity here
He just never did anything with it. You can’t blame teams for giving up on guys that don’t do anything for them. Maybe some guys just fit better in different systems.
I think we need to get Clifford Franklin from Washington...
…with all the turnaround and just having sent a WR to the practice squad.
The football’s like a one-man cold to Clifford Franklin. Clifford Franklin’s the only man catchin’ it, Clifford Franklin’s the only man comin’ down wid it.
Question
One thing is certain, Bradley will get a shot to show he belongs in a starting lineup in Kansas City, considering the injuries and underwhelming performances from all KC receivers not named Bowe.
Has anyone heard when Franklin will be back? I’d like to see what he could do opposite Bowe.
Franklin played last week
He caught one ball I believe.
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Yea, he played
But when does this Franklin come back?
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Tony vs. Franklin....same person?
I’ve never seen them together at the same time….makes you wonder…hmmmmm.
Ah, Franklin
I loved that show…shame they had to cancel it.
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CLIFFORD FRANKLIN FOR WR!!!!
We need to hire some “Replacements”. They can’t do any worse and it would be fun. Any chance the pro’s might go on strike again?
Now you know this don’t look natural Coach. Now you know it don’t… I look like I just jacked off an elephant.
Coach McGinty: You know what separates the winners from the losers?
Shane Falco: The score.
John Madden: I love to see a fat guy score.
Pat Summerall: Why?
John Madden: Because first you get a fat guy spike, then you get the fat guy dance.
Good Signing...
Good talent. Poor work ethic. Poor health.
By the way, no way is Chicago’s QB situation worse than KC’s. Every one of Chicago’s three QB’s have been better than any one of KC’s ever since Trent Green got knocked out, regardless of how fun it is to make fun of Sex Cannon and Neck Beard.
Sorry, But
Huard’s numbers were a lot better than Grossman’s or Orton’s last season (and before that). Brodie Croyle I’m not going to argue with you about…he wasn’t good in 2007 and he was nothing special in the three quarters he played this year.
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No Need to be Sorry
I’m a big fan of both teams so I’ve seen a lot of bad QB play between the two teams. Huard’s numbers are always inflated most likely due to how he just holds on to the ball waiting to get sacked.
Better Sacked
Than giving it away to the defense. :)
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Bradley
I think that Bradley will get a good shot at starting and this could mean disaster for Darling and Webb who will be dropped a lot lower because of Mark’s shot and the opportunity to get Will Franklin more time, plus when Kevin Robinson comes back that we will have 6 receivers and i bet we drop someone, this could be a first of shakes up and i think more are yet to come
YES!
When I read this FanPost at work this morning it made my day. When Chicago released him I wanted to make a FanPost about his free agency but seeing as Chad Jackson hasn’t gone anywhere I thought it was a long shot Bradley would land in Kansas City.
I like seeing another Big 12 player on our squad and I know former teammate Tommie Harris didn’t like to seeing him go and that he thought he wasn’t given a fair shot. I for one think this was a great signing, evern moreso since he took Sams spot. I think he’ll line up at the #2 which drops Darling to the #3
What’s this mean for Kevin Robinson? I’ve been thinking about him and I wonder if his injuries have sealed his fate here? I know he hasn’t even played a single down but missing most of your rookie year isn’t a great start and considering how late of a draft pick he is I wonder if he’s expendable
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 1, 2008 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
Robinson will get his chance
They drafted him to be a kick returner, not a WR. Unless Savage starts making 50 yard returns every game, theres not much question that Robinson will get some chances to prove himself.
Good to know
That he has a speciality which they signed him for. I missed this bit in the draft/preseason coverage..
Now only if we could cut Thigpen. There’s no need for 4 active roster QB’s if 1 isn’t on the IR..
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 1, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Robinson
2007 – 20 punt returns for 378 yards (18.9 avg.) with a TD and a school-record 43 kickoff returns for 1,260 yards (29.3 avg.) with three TDs
This is nice too -
At the end of the 2007 season, Robinson became the NCAA career all-purpose yards per play record holder with a 16.16 average on 6,479 career yards in 401 plays.
Don’t think he’s probably being looked at as a WR very seriously, right now they want him for his return ability.
I would be pretty surprised if they cut Thigpen. He’s a developmental project that they’ve invested some time in and you dont usually cut those just because they played poorly when they weren’t really ready. I’m pretty sure Ingle will be the one cut, but I guess you never know.
No Clue Why They'd Do That
Over their college careers (at the same level of football, versus some of the same opponents) Martin was a superior passer to Thigpen. If anything, Martin’s the one with upside here…Thigpen’s just a guy who’s struggled to complete passes as long as anyone’s been paying attention.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
I'm not going to argue over the 3rd string QB
But some people need to not be so quick to completely dismiss a player because he was thrown in the fire and didn’t do well in a couple of games. Almost any late round QB is going to take years to develop to the point of being competent in the NFL.
Most Late Round QBs
Aren’t worth the effort of spending years developing because they aren’t good enough to make it in the NFL. That’s why they’re late round QBs because they don’t have a lot of ability…it’s not a matter of giving them more time. Nothing personal against Thigpen, because I’m sure he tries hard, but the guy completed 53% of his passes for his college career and he played at Division 1AA. He might be able to run fast for his position and he can throw the ball hard, but he’s got no real potential as an NFL QB.
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Give me a break
Tyler Thigpen will never, ever, ever, ever, ever on the planet Earth be a good QB worthy of playing third string in the NFL. He alone is a cause for concern about our very own talent development & evaluation methods. There’s nothing to see in this kid and the longer he stays on the team the longer I question our coaching staff. If the same people who consider him a developmental project are going to be the same people in charge of possibly drafting a R1 QB than we’re screwed
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 1, 2008 6:23 PM CDT reply actions
Intersting sidenote on the Bradley signing
Tommie Harris who played with Bradley at Oklahoma was very upset the Bears released him. He is quoted as saying he didn’t believe Bradley got a fair chance at playing. Hopefully Tommie is right…..
Why is the league passing on this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktpjvtz9iQ (Check out #12)
It has to be personality issues because I don’t think its his abilities or age that’s deters people from signing him. Since we inked Bradley – I just wonder if his name came up AT ALL in the Chiefs front offices
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 1, 2008 10:50 PM CDT reply actions
Florida Receivers
They just seem to have trouble adjusting to the NFL game for some reason (similar thing with USC receivers). Don’t know what the deal is, but the Patriots did give him a chance and he just never seemed to be able to cut it with them.
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32 teams in the league
and for the most part I believe are all different systems. Just because he didn’t succeed at Belichick U doesn’t mean he can’t elsewhere……………………..right?
I read somewhere in an article that during draft scouting (was it Cowher still w/ Pittsburgh?) his meeting w/ the Steelrs was cut short because he’d answer his cell phone during discussions. It went on to talk about other personality flaws that I don’t think is winning him over…
Sounds as though, unsurprisingly, the Broncos & Oakland have expressed interest. I’m surprised Seattle didn’t pick him up but perhaps they’re only looking for short-term solutions.
You are right though about Florida receivers. Travis Taylor, Ike Hillard(I have always liked him though), ect.
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 1, 2008 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Ike Hilliard
He’s been a pretty good receiver over his career. Not great but good. Biggest problem with him is that he got injured a lot. But when he could get on the field he was productive.
Other than Ike, though, I can’t think of another Florida receiver who’s really been any good in the NFL.
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UC
Did you see where the Bills gave Lee Evans a four year contract extension today? I know that you had mentioned that the Bills would be highly unlikely to put the franchise tag on Losman because they would have to use it on Evans. Now they can put the franchise tag on Losman and the idea of getting him in Free Agency just got more expensive. If our plan might be to use a draft pick on QB, especially a 1st day pick, it might get too expensive to do both? Thoughts?
Missed That
Fortunately I doubt Losman gets franchised anyway, since that would obligate the team to pay him the average salary of the top five guys at his position. And I just don’t see the Bills dropping more than $10 million on a backup QB if they aren’t able to trade him.
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Me Too
Of course the key would be convincing him that he wants to sign here. If we can’t convince Chris Simms to sign with us when he’d have a great shot at the starting gig, then I’m not sure how well we’ll pitch Losman.
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