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Chiefs Sign New Wide Receiver

[From the FanPosts.  -Primetime]

Today the Chiefs signed a new wide receiver, ex-Bear Mark Bradley.

A second-round pick of the Bears in 2005, Bradley's career has mostly been a disappointment.

He had his best season when he was a rookie, making 18 catches. That number fell to 14 the following season and six last year.

His lack of production aside, I actually like this signing.  Wide receivers are rarely good in their first season or two and the Bears have been saddled with the worst QB situation in the league for the last couple of years (just ahead of the Chiefs).  Bradley's still a young player (26), his yards per catch have been solid through his career (while playing in an offense as inept as Kansas City's), and his lack of production appears to be more a factor of usage rather than ability.

Will he stick?  No clue...maybe he's another Eddie Kennison, maybe he's another Devard Darling.  It's not promising that the Bears, who are definitely in need of quality receivers, let him go.  But then the Bears front office's record on evaluating talent is so unimpressive as of late that it wouldn't be a surprise if they let a decent player slip through the cracks as well.  One thing is certain, Bradley will get a shot to show he belongs in a starting lineup in Kansas City, considering the injuries and underwhelming performances from all KC receivers not named Bowe.

Update:  Apparently health has been an issue with Bradley as well.  He had surgery to repair a torn ACL in 2005, and his route running has reportedly been questionable.  But he appears to be healthy now, and as such he's not a horrible signing for the Chiefs...especially if he ends up taking B.J. Sams' heretofore wasted roster spot.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Nice catch, UC

You think his lack of production is more of an indictment on the receiver or the QB?

by primetime 07 on Oct 1, 2008 11:15 AM CDT   0 recs

Chicken or the Egg

Is it the QB that makes the receiver or the receiver that makes the QB – other than those few outstanding players that are just amazing on their own.

by tevans96 on Oct 1, 2008 11:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

Too early to tell. Guess we’ll find out though. While the Bears are hardly world-class talents at evaluating players, the same management team that cut him was also the same one that drafted him. So maybe he is a crap player, or maybe he was just in a terrible offense…but it’s a low-risk signing for us, so it’s probably worthwhile.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 11:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why the Darling Animosity?

I mean you coulda used Sammie Parker.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Oct 1, 2008 11:21 AM CDT   0 recs

We drafted Parker

I think he was just talking about retreads – Kennison was a successful one, Darling thus far has not been

by dkugler838 on Oct 1, 2008 11:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's It

Sometimes the retreads work out, sometimes not.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 11:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not Really Animosity Towards Darling...They're Just Good Comparisons

Darling was the same sort of deal as Bradley…a 26 year old guy who reportedly was a great athlete who translated little of it to the field in his time with Baltimore, and we speculated at the time that may or may not have been a factor of the terrible QB/offensive situation there. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to say that Darling’s been pretty underwhelming during his time here, especially since he supposedly has world-class speed but he got run down from behind by the Patriots in the open field. I just threw Darling’s name in because the situations were fairly identical.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 11:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Didn't Sams have an ACL tear?

And now look at his playmaking ability….the difference I can see off the bat is that this guy was a 2nd rd pick (pick 39, just outside of the 1st rd) – therefore he showed promise somewhere along the line. Darling was a 3rd rounder and Sams was undrafted. Both teams (Ravens and Bears) have had questionable WR choices so hopefully we’re not seeing the horse of a different color.

by dkugler838 on Oct 1, 2008 11:40 AM CDT   0 recs

Sams' Was A Little More Severe

I think there was knee damage plus a broken leg. And Sams’ other skills weren’t particularly great pre-injury…I think he’s really only been a kick returner.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 11:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Horses
Both teams (Ravens and Bears) have had questionable WR choices so hopefully we’re not seeing the horse of a different color.

Hopefully he’ll work out. But if not it’s okay…we don’t have much invested in him anyway so we can dump him with no real penalty. It’s not like Robinson or Franklin have done anything out there to justify getting more minutes than Bradley.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 11:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I really meant

the same horse, just different color. Tough to get on a roll with these things and use the right cliches at the same time : )

by dkugler838 on Oct 1, 2008 1:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's Okay

I figured that’s what you meant :)

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What happened to Chad Jackson??

Has anyone signed him yet?

If everyone worked as hard as me, I would be out of a job.

-Steve Nash

by Red Shadow on Oct 1, 2008 11:52 AM CDT   0 recs

Remember when he was drafted.

I lived in Chicago for a few years.

This guy was behind Muhsin Muhammad and Bernard Berrian who were playing well enough for what the passing game was asked.

Additionally, the Bears were always looking to work their DBs (Hester, Vasher and others) in as receivers which didn’t help Bradley get playing time.

by NJChiefsFan on Oct 1, 2008 11:59 AM CDT   0 recs

Good signing

I know nothing about the guy, but we should be trying out young receivers like this. Bradley is tall (6’2’’) has some experience in the NFL and could just be looking for a shot like a young receiver we once let go named Joe Horn.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Oct 1, 2008 12:13 PM CDT   0 recs

I still say that is one thing that began the snowball

effect to the Chiefs when he left. (Horn)

by Lanier63 on Oct 1, 2008 1:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Joe Horn had lots of opportunity here

He just never did anything with it. You can’t blame teams for giving up on guys that don’t do anything for them. Maybe some guys just fit better in different systems.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 1, 2008 1:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Released Sams to get him
Good-bye, B.J. Sams
The Chiefs gave up on the veteran kick returner. They released him today to make roster room for Mark Bradley.

by NJChiefsFan on Oct 1, 2008 12:18 PM CDT   0 recs

I think we need to get Clifford Franklin from Washington...

…with all the turnaround and just having sent a WR to the practice squad.

The football’s like a one-man cold to Clifford Franklin. Clifford Franklin’s the only man catchin’ it, Clifford Franklin’s the only man comin’ down wid it.

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 1, 2008 12:27 PM CDT   0 recs

Question
One thing is certain, Bradley will get a shot to show he belongs in a starting lineup in Kansas City, considering the injuries and underwhelming performances from all KC receivers not named Bowe.

Has anyone heard when Franklin will be back? I’d like to see what he could do opposite Bowe.

by PVChiefsfan on Oct 1, 2008 12:31 PM CDT   0 recs

Franklin played last week

He caught one ball I believe.

Go to Wide World of Roto for all your fantasy news!

by JasonM on Oct 1, 2008 12:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Really?

Holy crap I must not be paying attention. I still have it DVR’d…I’ll check it out again.

by PVChiefsfan on Oct 1, 2008 12:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yea, he played

But when does this Franklin come back?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Oct 1, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tony vs. Franklin....same person?

I’ve never seen them together at the same time….makes you wonder…hmmmmm.

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 1, 2008 2:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, Franklin

I loved that show…shame they had to cancel it.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 2:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good Signing...

Good talent. Poor work ethic. Poor health.

By the way, no way is Chicago’s QB situation worse than KC’s. Every one of Chicago’s three QB’s have been better than any one of KC’s ever since Trent Green got knocked out, regardless of how fun it is to make fun of Sex Cannon and Neck Beard.

by bfos7215 on Oct 1, 2008 1:58 PM CDT   0 recs

Sorry, But

Huard’s numbers were a lot better than Grossman’s or Orton’s last season (and before that). Brodie Croyle I’m not going to argue with you about…he wasn’t good in 2007 and he was nothing special in the three quarters he played this year.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rexman was terrible

and they still went to the Super Bowl.

I was amazed at they ways he tried to give games away. The D saved them time after time.

Orton was much better when he started as a rookie. He “managed games.” They might have won the SB if he’d been playing instead of Grossman.

Orton seems like a young Huard to me.

by NJChiefsFan on Oct 1, 2008 2:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Orton

Orton is improved a great deal from his rookie year. But, he wouldn’t have taken that team to the Super Bowl, let alone win it. The Bears needed Rex to win the first two playoff games and he did it. Yes, he gave away many games that year. But, he also won just as many, including the two NFC playoff games they won.

Rex makes a lot of stupid mistakes. So does Huard. Rex made a lot of great throws, too. Something Huard does very rarely.

by bfos7215 on Oct 1, 2008 2:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually...

If you check the numbers, you’ll see that Huard makes a lot fewer mistakes than Rex. That’s why Huard was the 22nd ranked passer in the NFL last year and Rexxy was somewhere down in the 30s. Note the much lower completion percentage and yards per attempt on the part of Rex while the yards per completion for each were about the same for Huard and Grossman. So Rex’s “great throws” weren’t really that numerous, nor did they come close to offsetting the negatives that he brought to the table.

Huard

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HuarDa00.htm

Grossman

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GrosRe00.htm

Huard’s no star, but Grossman’s not even close to Huard’s caliber of QB. Grossman’s a terrible QB on a team that won because of their defense. That’s why he’s on the bench this season.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 2:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Situation

And in 2007 Rex was far and away a better QB than Huard. The numbers are close between these two over the last few years, I’ll give you. So, you’re really left to actually watching the players play.

Rex is really bad without an O-line and running game. If he gets protection and can use the play action pass he is a very productive QB. Huard, in the same situation, is still a “manager” and remains mediocre. With a bad line and no running game, they are equally crappy. But, I wouldn’t have a problem if you prefer Huard in that situation.

Like I said, I’m a big fan of both teams and speaking as a Chiefs fan, I’d take all three of their QB’s over the 3 the Chiefs have in an instant.

by bfos7215 on Oct 2, 2008 8:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ummm...
And in 2007 Rex was far and away a better QB than Huard

Sorry, but there’s no evidence whatsoever to support your case. Rex Grossman was the 32nd ranked QB in the NFL in 2007 and Huard was the 22nd. His completion percentage was 8 points below Huard’s, his yards per completion was basically the same as Huard’s (11 to 11.2) and his TD/INT ratio was worse than Huard’s. The numbers aren’t really that close…aside from yards per completion, Damon Huard was better than Rex Grossman in every way as a passer.

Rex is really bad without an O-line and running game.

Same situation that Huard was in last year…and yet Huard was still a much better QB.

If he gets protection and can use the play action pass he is a very productive QB.

Same situation Huard was in last year, and yet Huard was still a productive QB.

Huard, in the same situation, is still a "manager" and remains mediocre

And Grossman was terrible and Huard wasn’t (he was simply mediocre). And this year, now that the Bears actually have a running game, he’s still so terrible that they’re sitting him on the bench. Grossman’s such a crap QB he can’t even be called a manager…he’s just a fundamentally unsound guy who panicks in the pocket and who makes horrible decisions and costs his team games. And yes, I got that impression from both the stats and from watching him play.

I can understand if you have a personal preference to Grossman over Huard, because when Grossman’s not playing terribly he can be fun to watch, but you shouldn’t confuse those rare flashes with assuming that Grossman’s anywhere near Huard’s caliber of player. He’s not. The stats bear that out and, more importantly, the Bears’ coaching staff realizes that he’s not good enough to play.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2008 8:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As Do the Chiefs...

Who have benched Huard for the likes of both Croyle and Thigpen.

I am sorry, I was mistakenly comparing Rex in 2006 to Huard in 2007. Rex was absurdly bad to start 2007, so it’s hard to see his improvement in the stats after he came back off the bench later in the year.

Rex definitely isn’t a manager and never tried to be. But, there’s my point. Huard tries to be a manager, yet still manages to play like he’s completely confused with what is going on in the pocket. So he holds on to the ball forever, takes way too many sacks, and throws the same kind of boneheaded interceptions Rex is famous for.

by bfos7215 on Oct 2, 2008 9:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You Mean 2006

When Damon Huard was the number 2 ranked passer in the NFL and Rex Grossman was the 24th ranked passer? :)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=pass&season=2&year=2006

Actually, even if you cherry pick Grossman’s best year against Huard’s worst year with the Chiefs, Grossman still loses (76.8 QB rating for Huard to 73.9 for Grossman). And Grossman was playing for a Bears team in 2006 that went to the Super Bowl and had a solid running game while Huard was playing for a team in 2007 that went 4-12 and had one of the worst o-lines in team history (with Larry Johnson out), so I don’t think you can pawn Grossman’s failures off on the supporting cast.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2008 9:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rating

Are you really holding up QB rating as the end-all-be-all? Seriously? Unless you’re ready to tell me that Huard was the 2 best QB in the entire NFL in 2006, then you got to stop basing your QB evaluation on it.

I said I mistakenly compared the wrong years between the two players. But, even with LJ out, the Chiefs still had a good amount of production from their RBs. Not to mention the best TE to ever play the game, which can not go unnoticed. Yet, he still managed a paltry 1 TD / Game, more picks than TDs, and crumpled in the pocket every 10 drop-backs….from a supposed game manager.

by bfos7215 on Oct 2, 2008 9:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No, But

Grossman isn’t really any better in the raw stats either. His completion percentage (the most important raw stat for a QB) alone kills any argument that he’s a better QB than Huard.

Unless you’re ready to tell me that Huard was the 2 best QB in the entire NFL in 2006, then you got to stop basing your QB evaluation on it.

I don’t need to tell you this…ESPN and Pro Football Reference can easily provide that information for you if you’d bother to look it up.

2006 completion percentages: Huard 60.7% (and 62% in 2007), Grossman 54.6%

2006 yards per completion: Huard 12.7, Grossman 12.2

2006 TD/INT ratio: Huard 11/1 (in half the passing attempts), Grossman 23/20.

Also, if you project Huard’s passing yardage to include the same number of attempts that Grossman got, (244 for Huard, 480 for Grossman) Huard would have thrown for about 3,600 yards compared to the 3,100 that Grossman got. And that’s while Huard was playing for a team in 2006 that had to back into the playoffs while Grossman was playing for a team that went to the Super Bowl.

Yet, he still managed a paltry 1 TD / Game, more picks than TDs, and crumpled in the pocket every 10 drop-backs….from a supposed game manager.

This is getting tiresome. Now you’re arguing that Huard’s underachieving, which may or may not be true but has no bearing on the fact that Grossman is an inferior QB to Huard. And I love how you keep bagging on Huard for being a “game manager”. Do you know why Grossman isn’t a game manager? Because he sucks and he can’t be bothered to try and run an offense competently. Because in 2006 he was happier to throw a pick into triple coverage rather than trust his capable running game and defense to win for them. Same as with most “gunslinging” QBs…they’re selfish, they’re fundamentally flawed QBs, they make stupid decisions and they rarely help their teams win anything.

Frankly, I wouldn’t want a guy like Grossman anywhere near my roster.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2008 10:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not bagging game managers

It’s just that Huard is supposed to be one and he’s not. He turns the ball over and gives up too much yardage to be one. And it’s easy to inflate ones comp % and yards / attempt when you dump it off to your stud RB and TE who are great accumulating YAC. Which is exactly why Huard found himself has the 2nd highest rated QB in 2006. It clearly wasn’t a representation of his place among his peers. Those are simply poor stats to evaluate QB play. They may be the best we got, but that doesn’t make it good.

I’ll go ahead and concede that Huard is better than Rex. You made some good arguments. But, Huard is still a very bad QB and the chiefs are in worse shape, because they don’t have the potential that Orton and Hannie have shown.

by bfos7215 on Oct 2, 2008 10:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Huard's Not Great

But he’s solid enough to start and run the team.

And it’s easy to inflate ones comp % and yards / attempt when you dump it off to your stud RB and TE who are great accumulating YAC.

Desmond Clark and Greg Olsen aren’t chopped liver. And a look at Brodie’s stats shows pretty convincingly that having Tony G on your team won’t automatically help you complete 60% of your passes or get your YPA and YPC up to even league average. Having great receivers helps with the distance numbers, sure, but not as much as actually getting the ball to those receivers in the first place. Huard does that at a pretty decent clip…and even this year he’s shown that he’s doing it better than the other two guys on his roster have been able to.

But, Huard is still a very bad QB and the chiefs are in worse shape, because they don’t have the potential that Orton and Hannie have shown

Actually I’d argue that the Chiefs are in horrible shape because Herm Edwards is not a very good head coach, his offenses have generally been inept due to playcalling and a terrible line, and because we simply can’t trust our general manager’s or coach’s judgment to find a QB of the future to develop. The best Herm’s come up with in his entire career is Chad Pennington (who’s been solid, but nothing special) and every QB that Carl Peterson has drafted has done nothing of value in the NFL (and yes, that includes Brodie…who I actually wouldn’t argue is a better QB than Rex Grossman).

The Chiefs have got some problems, but very few of those problems are as a result of Damon Huard. If anything he’s been a positive for this offense during his time here. That said, I wouldn’t want him starting for us next year because obviously he’s a fairly limited QB and he’s not likely to improve with age.

because they don’t have the potential that Orton and Hannie have shown

You’ll note that Kyle Orton isn’t actually outperforming Huard this year. His completion percentage is 10 points lower and his distance numbers and TD/INT ratio are about the same. Now that may change (since, after all, Orton is much younger than Huard and may improve) but right now Orton’s not a better QB than Huard. You also can’t really argue that Hanie’s shown anything more than Huard has since as far as I can tell Hanie hasn’t played at all this year except in the preseason (and even Tyler Thigpen looked competent in the preseason).

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2008 11:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Schedule

Orton has played quite a tough schedule for a QB to start the season. He’s got some cakes coming up, though.

Huard has only been a positive because of how bad the other options are. Let it be known, that if he wasn’t made of card board, I am relatively impressed with Croyle and think he could be much better than Huard. But, a QB that can’t handle pressure in the pocket, has a noodle arm, and makes his fair share of boneheaded turnovers is not a positive.

by bfos7215 on Oct 2, 2008 11:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Croyle's Deep Passing Numbers

Were actually the worst in the NFL last year. Worse than Huard’s, worse than Grossman’s even. And his completion percentage wasn’t very far off from Grossman’s either, despite having arguably better physical tools than Huard. I didn’t see anything in Croyle’s overall performance last season to indicate he’s anything more than a future backup at best and little to indicate that he’ll even be as good as Huard (again, that being a knock on Croyle more than a compliment of Huard).

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2008 12:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Croyle kind of reminds me of "Rex: The Early Years"

When Rex first started he made lots of mistakes and some amazing plays.

Croyle has the ability to make amazing plays and has surely made mistakes. Grossman never evolved beyond that. Due to injuries and last year’s line Croyle hasn’t had the chance.

I think Chicago was foolish to invest so much time in Grossman. I think Croyle will get one last shot this year. Injuries or lack of improvement and the Chiefs will be done with him.

by NJChiefsFan on Oct 2, 2008 12:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I Think You're Right

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2008 1:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

By The Way

Even if you insist that Huard is marginally better than Rex, that still isn’t nearly enough to say that the Chief’s QB situation is better off than Chicago’s.

by bfos7215 on Oct 2, 2008 8:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I Should Clarify

I have faith that the Chiefs will eventually be able to find a QB to fill a role in their offense next year. It may be a retread like Losman, but we’ll find someone capable…we usually do (Green, Grbac, Bono, DeBerg, Montana). The Bears, however, have had problems at QB for the last 50 years, and I suspect that it’ll be quite awhile before they’re ever able to find someone to fill that role…if ever. I don’t know if it’s playing in Chicago that does it (wind conditions play a factor, I suspect) or if the Halas family is predisposed to hiring a certain kind of scout, but when their franchise’s career passing leader is a guy who played back in the ‘50s (Sid Luckman) and who’s career yardage with the team is less than 15,000 yards, that’s a sign of some kind of long-term flaw in the organization when it comes to QBs.

Basically, I said the Chiefs’ situation is better than the Bears’ because the Chiefs’ have a much higher probability of fixing their QB situation in the offseason than the Bears do. The Bears have fielded only two decent QBs in the last 50 years…Jim McMahon (who was solid but overrated and seriously injury prone) and Jim Harbaugh (who was a capable, but mediocre passer) and the most recent of those two played for the Bears 15 years ago. Based on his numbers so far this year, maybe Orton becomes another Harbaugh (circa 1993), maybe not…but then right now he’s still not better than Huard.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2008 8:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's a Revision, Not a Clarification

“The last couple of years” does not mean the last 50 years, nor does it mean the next 5 years.

You don’t have to tell me how bad the QB’s have been in Chicago. It’s sick. The Packers have Favre for an ungodly number of starts and, as soon as he’s gone, it looks like they may have hit on his first replacement. But, I also see QB scouting as a crap shoot throughout the league. Just look at two of the best QB’s (Brady/Romo) in the game and what the entire league thought of them coming in. So, I’m willing to pair the Bears poor scouting with a good amount of poor luck.

by bfos7215 on Oct 2, 2008 9:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Chicago's QBs

I think it goes beyond luck there too…the same family’s owned the team that entire time (Halas family). They’re the ones making the decisions on who they take. And except for McMahon and Harbaugh almost all of their choices have been horrible. And even the few somewhat talented QBs that go there (Steve Walsh comes to mind) seem to regress once they join that team.

No clue what it is, but there’s something about the Bears franchise that wrecks QBs who come in and that keeps them from developing franchise caliber QBs (which neither McMahon nor Harbaugh were). Maybe it’s an amalgam of things (weather, bad coaching, terrible drafting and free agents). But I don’t think it’s getting fixed any time soon.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2008 10:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And I'm Not Saying Huard Is Marginally Better Than Grossman

I’m saying that he’s a lot better than Grossman. Nothing personal against Grossman because I’m sure he’s tried hard (and he’s had his share of obstacles) but he’s just not a good QB…at all.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2008 9:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok.

I’m just saying that you’re greatly over-valuing Huard’s play at QB. I can see why if you think Huard is one of the best QB’s in the league, that KC would be in better shape at QB than the Bears.

I’m just here to say that Huard is a nothing close to a good QB. He’s a guy I wouldn’t mind going to in the middle of a game if my starter got hurt. That’s all he is.

by bfos7215 on Oct 2, 2008 10:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And..

That’s all I see out of Orton, too. It’s just Orton has a bit more poise and the ability to make a few more throws than Huard can make. Rex is effectively done and doesn’t have a roll as a guy who can improve, or a guy who you’d want to step in as a backup in case of injury. So, I will give you that at least Huard has a roll in the NFL. Which is an argument for him being a better NFL QB.

by bfos7215 on Oct 2, 2008 10:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually, I Don't

I think 22nd was about the right rating for Huard last year. And I don’t think he’s a top QB this year. He’s just better than anyone who’s on our roster, and he’s better than anyone on the Bears’ roster because he’s better than Orton and he’s definitely better than Grossman. Maybe Orton develops into a good QB and changes that, but based on the Bears’ history, I’ll believe it when I see it.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2008 10:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No Need to be Sorry

I’m a big fan of both teams so I’ve seen a lot of bad QB play between the two teams. Huard’s numbers are always inflated most likely due to how he just holds on to the ball waiting to get sacked.

by bfos7215 on Oct 1, 2008 2:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Better Sacked

Than giving it away to the defense. :)

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 2:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

CLIFFORD FRANKLIN FOR WR!!!!

We need to hire some “Replacements”. They can’t do any worse and it would be fun. Any chance the pro’s might go on strike again?

Now you know this don’t look natural Coach. Now you know it don’t… I look like I just jacked off an elephant.



Coach McGinty: You know what separates the winners from the losers?
Shane Falco: The score.

John Madden: I love to see a fat guy score.
Pat Summerall: Why?
John Madden: Because first you get a fat guy spike, then you get the fat guy dance.

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 1, 2008 1:58 PM CDT   0 recs

Bradley

I think that Bradley will get a good shot at starting and this could mean disaster for Darling and Webb who will be dropped a lot lower because of Mark’s shot and the opportunity to get Will Franklin more time, plus when Kevin Robinson comes back that we will have 6 receivers and i bet we drop someone, this could be a first of shakes up and i think more are yet to come

by IamtheGreatest on Oct 1, 2008 2:27 PM CDT   0 recs

i think that

Thigpen is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Rex

by IamtheGreatest on Oct 1, 2008 2:28 PM CDT   0 recs

6 of 1

Half a dozen of the other.

I still think Thigpen deserves more time. Not to start, but I’m not sure it’s wise to make a decision on the one game.

by NJChiefsFan on Oct 1, 2008 2:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I Think Thigpen Should Be Happy To Still Have A Job

I think we’ve seen all we need to of Tyler Thigpen on the field this season.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2008 2:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

More than we all need, for certain.

by KCFanatic on Oct 1, 2008 3:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

Just kidding

by IamtheGreatest on Oct 1, 2008 2:28 PM CDT   0 recs

YES!

When I read this FanPost at work this morning it made my day. When Chicago released him I wanted to make a FanPost about his free agency but seeing as Chad Jackson hasn’t gone anywhere I thought it was a long shot Bradley would land in Kansas City.

I like seeing another Big 12 player on our squad and I know former teammate Tommie Harris didn’t like to seeing him go and that he thought he wasn’t given a fair shot. I for one think this was a great signing, evern moreso since he took Sams spot. I think he’ll line up at the #2 which drops Darling to the #3

What’s this mean for Kevin Robinson? I’ve been thinking about him and I wonder if his injuries have sealed his fate here? I know he hasn’t even played a single down but missing most of your rookie year isn’t a great start and considering how late of a draft pick he is I wonder if he’s expendable

by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 1, 2008 5:32 PM CDT   0 recs

Robinson will get his chance

They drafted him to be a kick returner, not a WR. Unless Savage starts making 50 yard returns every game, theres not much question that Robinson will get some chances to prove himself.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 1, 2008 5:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs