Open Gameday Thread - Kansas City Chiefs (4-8) v. Denver Broncos (5-7)

Chiefs 16-13

What's LJ's status?

He has so many weapons, he's set up to succeed?

And the Broncos....

WR Javon Walker
RB Mike Bell
S  Nick Ferguson
S  Marviel Underwood
OL Isaac Snell
DE Larry Birdine
DE Paul Carrington
QB Darrell Hackney

still, i am happy sippio is (apparently) getting a chance.

i love sippio.

in all honesty, the most important part of this game is the play of the young players. specifically, brodie croyle. if we lose, but croyle and kolby and bowe and sippio and page and pollard play well, i will be happier than if they all play like crap and we win.

cowboys just did it, hopefully the titans D can stuff the chargers...

Perfect timing.

they lose this game, and the chargers win, and they are out. at least they should be.

that would make my day.

i hate the broncos.

pollard needs to get off his block more, and jarrad page just tackled like greg wesley.

learn how to wrap up, jarrad, dont go for the big play...

two new corners and a new DT and we have an amazing defense. right now, we just have a good defense.

Webb fumble. Chiefs get it back.

%.

Get tight and conservative on offense and play for field position!

Or is this more of my silly high expectations for Herm?

but seriously, someone needs to get in his ear and force him to throw the ball downfield.

tom brady is a punk, i hate the patriots.....

greatest announcer in the history of the world...

anyone want to put an over/under on first downs for us?

We have 0 through the first quarter. So that's awesome.

honestly, do they teach discipline at all in denver on the defensive line?

at all?

Herm's a master evaluator of talent!

Anybody else starting to wonder if God hates Herm and punishes him with injuries?

We GOT A FIRST!

YEA!

we got it.

we (and everyone) should go for it every 4th and 1 in the opponents territory. it makes too much sense...

Brace yourselves...

Good job, Herm!

dont fail me now, herm...

Smith's working for hard yardage.

Open it up, Herm.

delay of game.

crap.

maybe in 2009...

and literally JUST as i typed that, he was beat by dumervil and gave up a sack.

crap.

but still, by and large he is playing pretty well...

GO FOR IT HERM!!!

finally bowe caught the ball.

good protection.

and that is the third 4th down attempt by herm, maybe he understands we need a spark?

maybe?

NO MORE PUNTS!

Didn't drop that one!

wow, see what happens when you go for it on 4th down?

see?

see?

and when you open it up?

see?

see?

I'm very impressed with Herm on that drive. Good playcalling.

I think Brodie's getting into his groove.

Now we gotta keep Cutler out of his.

play sapp and brackenridge...

What happened, defense?

that, right there, is why the nfl is called the freaking No Fun League.

that is the stupidest thing i have ever seen.

i hate all of the celebration rules, let people celebrate if they want to. honestly.

At least we're opening the playbook up a little more.  Using our passing options.

They're going to go in for the kill now.

On pace to break AP's record for most yards in a game.

i fully expected to lose this game...

I would definitely want him, but we also need o-linemen bad.

When's the earliest Long will be able to make a real impact?

Drafting a stud lineman won't necessarily improve that for another 3 or 4 years.

I've said this before. What if we land in the 4 spot and it goes

McFadden
Long
Brohm
Dorsey

I mean, I understand the "You can't always take the sexy pick!" mentality.

But...I mean... really?

I think Dorsey would be a foolish pick, I'd be tempted to trade for a later spot and an extra pick later.

i still think he had a pretty good game...

it would be kind of funny...

we really got our ass kicked today, didn't we?

I mean, we got ran off the field.

By the Broncos.

After losing to the Raiders.

Wow.

We're the worst team in the AFC West.

Damn Vermeil for putting us in this position! (This is MAWK's attempt at supporting popular opinion.)

But if you ever guarantee victory again? We're going to come to your house, kidnap you, tie you to a chair and make you watch hour upon hours of our offense this year with Hermisms spliced in between and the Canadian PSAs intermingled with your eyes taped open a la Clcokwork Orange.

Herm Edwards had absolutely nothing to do with the play today.

In three years, when we're celebrating our 2nd of 7 consecutive Super Bowl titles, we'll all think about this game and laugh.

Remember, you play to win the game. Unless you're playing the Colts, Broncos, or Raiders.

I think my eyes are bleeding.

Worst case scenario we can trade him for something.

I just think the QBs in this draft have a lot more talentthan in years past.

There's going to be some growing pains, but just remember, Herm Edwards can draft reeaaaaally well. What goes on in the game has very little to do with actually winning and losing. What's important is how you evaluate players.

Let's all make sure we blame the right person for this humiliating and disgusting, sternum punching loss.

Dick Vermeil.

50 -@ Buffalo, 1976

most points allowed against denver in a game:

45 -@ Denver, 2003  

We have GOT to get rid of that guy and bring in someone that won't deliver us one of the worst losses in franchise history.

Someone like Herm Edwards.

Dick Vermeil has seriously failed to implement the players necessary to run this scheme. If a coach had even a year and a half they could do better than this. Geez.

You guys can feel us building, right?

We're building into a team that doesn't get blown out...

Oh, no. Ball at the 1.

Duck, Brodie! Save yourself!

0 - vs. Denver, 1965
14 - @ New England, 1998
17 - twice:  1960, 1992

herm has yet to have this team play up to its ability this season, besides SD in the second half, and that is all on him.

vermeils win-at-all-costs-right-now didnt help, but herm is responsible for HIS team.

but give him time. rash decisions are never good.

we were in a position to win the afc west before injuries beat the crap out of us. our lack of depth is partially due to the lack of drafting ability of dick vermeil.

i know, i know, i know. vermeil was a good coach blah blah blah...

but vermeil only made the playoffs once in his 5 year tenure with the kansas city chiefs. herm has made it once in 2 years.

give him the same 5 years vermeil got and see what happens, he might still coach like shit but i bet we have more talent.

i understand where you are coming from. herm is far from the best coach in the NFL. he is average at best.

maybe i am just being too optimistic. but i just get the feeling that we have a chance to win a super bowl in another two years. i want to at least try and do it with a lights-out defense (which we are farther from than i thought; we need 2 CBs, a DT and another LB) and a good offense. we still need an offensive line, but it looks like we have the RB combo (kolby and LJ), the WR (bowe), the TE (gonzalez) and maybe the QB. if croyle can continue to improve, which i think he can and will, or if we can draft a solid QB like woodson or brennan or ryan or somebody, we have a solid chance.

i know im in the minority, maybe im the only one, but oh well....

I don't want to fire Edwards. I want just what you said. When Edwards completely sucks, for us to say, "Wow, Herm Edwards coached a horrible, horrible game."

And I'm a little sick of blame being heaped on the first coach we've had to get us to 13-3, when people keep saying "Look at how terrible the defense was!" and then, you know, 41-7.

Edwards is responsible for this team. Not Vermeil. If he doesn't have the talent he wants, he needs to go out and get it.

I'm still trying to figure out why people aren't criticizing him for Kyle Turley getting paid by us.

When we do win games, we win by small victories, barely edging out teams in the last five minutes.

We run draws on 3rd and 18.

Today's not a reason to fire Herm Edwards. Today is a reason to question whether we're heading in the right direction.

Finally, look. I jumped up an dscreamed in the middle of a Bourbon Street bar when the Broncos lost to the Niners. That was awesome.

But let's be honest, here.

We didn't win our way in. Other teams blew it. Saying Edwards made it to the playoffs is not okay with me. I don't buy Herm's little speech.

I want to win our way into the playoffs. Not benefit from other people's losses before getting annihilated in the first round.

Again.